The line is quite offensive right now

[sportscurmudgeon]

Pocket$ Straight:

If Williams and Jones are so competent, how come 32 NFL teams allowed them to languish in a state of idleness for several years? Are you telling me that no team in the league faced serious problems with the competency of its OL in the last three years? Or maybe the Skins' FO was the only organization smart enough to track down these lost souls?


These guys were unmitigated busts as high draft pick. Now MAYBE they have reformed some of their habits such that they MIGHT become serviceable NFL players. But to see these guys turning into foundation pieces for an NFL team probably requires a visit from the Skins' Fairy Godmother.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Pocket$ Straight:

If Williams and Jones are so competent, how come 32 NFL teams allowed them to languish in a state of idleness for several years? Are you telling me that no team in the league faced serious problems with the competency of its OL in the last three years? Or maybe the Skins' FO was the only organization smart enough to track down these lost souls?


These guys were unmitigated busts as high draft pick. Now MAYBE they have reformed some of their habits such that they MIGHT become serviceable NFL players. But to see these guys turning into foundation pieces for an NFL team probably requires a visit from the Skins' Fairy Godmother.

I don't think he was saying they would build around them as much as those guys may be able to maintain a spot for a year or two as young draft picks are brought in.

A good example of rebuilding an o line in 1 year is our rival pokes; a few years ago they overpaid Leonard Davis, a career underachiever at OT, and moved him to guard. They picked up Mark Colombo & he resurrected his career as their RT after he was pretty much a bust 2nd rounder in chicago. They already had a good LT (penalties aside) & C (shotgun snapping aside). Their LG spot has been a problem w/Kosier et al, but they have been pretty solid as a unit, great run blockers at least. Sure they've had troulbe in pass pro v. the better pass rushers, but they transformed that unit quickly & have had some explosive offensive years since.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Pocket$ Straight:

If Williams and Jones are so competent, how come 32 NFL teams allowed them to languish in a state of idleness for several years? Are you telling me that no team in the league faced serious problems with the competency of its OL in the last three years? Or maybe the Skins' FO was the only organization smart enough to track down these lost souls?


These guys were unmitigated busts as high draft pick. Now MAYBE they have reformed some of their habits such that they MIGHT become serviceable NFL players. But to see these guys turning into foundation pieces for an NFL team probably requires a visit from the Skins' Fairy Godmother.

Let me summarize my previous posts.

1st pick next year - Premier tackle
2nd pick next year - Best available lineman T G or Center

Free agency - Best O-line available preferably a tackle and possibly even another starter C or guard

How was Levi Jones a bust? He started roughly 90 games and was on a few good teams. Plus he earned an extension. You cannot intelligently comment on Jones until he gets on the field. He can't be worse than Heyer who almost lost JC for a season his rookie year, was dogshit last year and continues to be dogshit.

Williams is in the bust category but I see him more as depth and possibly RG. He has been playing better recently btw. He looks a lot better than Heyer. Why did 32 teams pass on him? Because he was 450. No one expected him to get to his current state.