Your next QB for the Skins?

SmootSmack · 10-28-2009, 01:53 PM

It probably makes more sense to go OL first round and then maybe QB in the second (especially with the depth there in this year's draft). And then OL again in the mid to late rounds.

But I don't see it as a total tragedy if we draft a QB first and then go OL in the 2nd

skinsfan69 · 10-28-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You could just replace "Bulger" with "Campbell" and the argument fits just as well.

We'd still have to fix the obvious issues with the offense before you could sap one ounce of Bulgers talent, and at that point, you're still not getting anything you wouldn't have with Campbell.

Well you'd have to fix the o-line but Bulger is a more accurate passer than JC. He doesn't have the physical skills, arm mobility and so on... but I think he can be a better QB with a good team around him. Bulger does something I've never ever seen JC do in 5 years, he actually throws the ball before wr's come out of their breaks.

skinsfan69 · 10-28-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Both guys?

I'm just throwing things around. We've got to upgrade the QB position and I don't see a can't miss prospect coming out in the draft.

skinsfan69 · 10-28-2009, 02:12 PM

Colt McCoy reminds me of Heath Shuler.

Monkeydad · 10-28-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you'd have to fix the o-line but Bulger is a more accurate passer than JC. He doesn't have the physical skills, arm mobility and so on... but I think he can be a better QB with a good team around him. Bulger does something I've never ever seen JC do in 5 years, he actually throws the ball before wr's come out of their breaks.

SmootSmack · 10-28-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm just throwing things around. We've got to upgrade the QB position and I don't see a can't miss prospect coming out in the draft.

I'm not sure which two guys you were talking about though

And how does Colt remind you of Shuler?

I'm watching Colt's game from last weekend right now, just watched Snead earlier today. I like Colt's presence more, but Snead has the better arm in my opinion

redsk1 · 10-28-2009, 02:28 PM

It's going to be a long season when we're talking draft before our 8th game. Sigh...

Hey, we need more picks as a team. There are too many holes. Anyway, we can get picks, we need them, barring doing any stupid. I'm not opposed to a QB first although we do need multiple lineman.

I guess hopefully this will be up to our new GM and coach. Hopefully, we'll have a guy that comes in and does it their way as opposed to the owners way.

Clausen looks like he can play imo. Bradford has impressed scouts but I really haven't seen much of him. He could slide due to his injury. He won't be able to do the combine, workouts, etc.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-28-2009, 02:35 PM

Clausen if he's there without having to trading up. If not, take Okung and then another OL (Black from LSU?) in the second. QB will have to come through FA / trade until 2011.

SmootSmack · 10-28-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Clausen if he's there without having to trading up. If not, take Okung and then another OL (Black from LSU?) in the second. QB will have to come through FA / trade until 2011.

So Clausen or bust as far as college QBs for you?

(Watching Tim Tebow's game from last weekend now)

SkinFanatic · 10-28-2009, 02:45 PM

You could just replace "Bulger" with "Campbell" and the argument fits just as well.

We'd still have to fix the obvious issues with the offense before you could sap one ounce of Bulgers talent, and at that point, you're still not getting anything you wouldn't have with Campbell.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! You can't expect ANY quarterback to do any better than Campbell's done with the current O-line situation. How can you even evaluate a performance when all he is doing is running for his life. Fix the line problems first and then, (whether JC is here or not) plug a QB into the situation. If I were a top 5 QB in the draft, or in free agency, I would do everything I could NOT to come here.

tryfuhl · 10-28-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Moss was a bit open there too.. and he was past his break

I know that you can't come up with video of every time he actually has, but it'd still be the exception

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-28-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It probably makes more sense to go OL first round and then maybe QB in the second (especially with the depth there in this year's draft). And then OL again in the mid to late rounds.

But I don't see it as a total tragedy if we draft a QB first and then go OL in the 2nd

Thats kind of what the Falcons did last year and it worked out pretty well for them... I guess it would depend on what QB we selected in the first. It sure as hell had better not be Sam Bradford. I havent heard a single professional opinion of him that says he's not overrated. He has raw potential, but is 2-3 years away from starting in the league. IMO, you dont draft a QB in the first round unless you think he is atleast CAPEABLE of starting at some point in his rookie season. Project QBs should never be taken in the first.

dmek25 · 10-28-2009, 02:51 PM

just the thought of Campbell returning made me throw up in my mouth alittle. im not sure who to bring in. but i like the idea of bringing in a veteran, to give the skins time to build an NFL caliber line. because what they have here now is no where close to a real offensive line. and im not seeing the same things in Clausen that alot of you guys are. can someone explain him to me?

Monkeydad · 10-28-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thats kind of what the Falcons did last year and it worked out pretty well for them... I guess it would depend on what QB we selected in the first. It sure as hell had better not be Sam Bradford. I havent heard a single professional opinion of him that says he's not overrated. He has raw potential, but is 2-3 years away from starting in the league. IMO, you dont draft a QB in the first round unless you think he is atleast CAPEABLE of starting at some point in his rookie season. Project QBs should never be taken in the first.

Plus, Bradford would likely have his already possibly-fragile limbs ripped off if we don't make it top priority to get an offensive line.

skinsfan69 · 10-28-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

analyze the whole body of work. not the best play of his career.

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skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,450	Re: Your next QB for the Skins? Colt McCoy reminds me of Heath Shuler.

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redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Your next QB for the Skins? It's going to be a long season when we're talking draft before our 8th game. Sigh... Hey, we need more picks as a team. There are too many holes. Anyway, we can get picks, we need them, barring doing any stupid. I'm not opposed to a QB first although we do need multiple lineman. I guess hopefully this will be up to our new GM and coach. Hopefully, we'll have a guy that comes in and does it their way as opposed to the owners way. Clausen looks like he can play imo. Bradford has impressed scouts but I really haven't seen much of him. He could slide due to his injury. He won't be able to do the combine, workouts, etc.

10-28-2009, 02:35 PM	#113
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: Your next QB for the Skins? Clausen if he's there without having to trading up. If not, take Okung and then another OL (Black from LSU?) in the second. QB will have to come through FA / trade until 2011. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

10-28-2009, 02:45 PM	#115
SkinFanatic Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 65 Posts: 49	Re: Your next QB for the Skins? You could just replace "Bulger" with "Campbell" and the argument fits just as well. We'd still have to fix the obvious issues with the offense before you could sap one ounce of Bulgers talent, and at that point, you're still not getting anything you wouldn't have with Campbell.[/QUOTE] Exactly! You can't expect ANY quarterback to do any better than Campbell's done with the current O-line situation. How can you even evaluate a performance when all he is doing is running for his life. Fix the line problems first and then, (whether JC is here or not) plug a QB into the situation. If I were a top 5 QB in the draft, or in free agency, I would do everything I could NOT to come here. __________________ GM First

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dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Your next QB for the Skins? just the thought of Campbell returning made me throw up in my mouth alittle. im not sure who to bring in. but i like the idea of bringing in a veteran, to give the skins time to build an NFL caliber line. because what they have here now is no where close to a real offensive line. and im not seeing the same things in Clausen that alot of you guys are. can someone explain him to me? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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