The line is quite offensive right now

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Sorry was out, yes agree more than 1 year to rebuild. Oline should be the first to receive attention in the rebuilding process. To your question of how to get a QB: Im not in favor of drafting one this coming up year, but I feel to effectively start a rebuilding process will be with to rid our offense of players who has leveled out, peaked, stagnated etc...whatever you want to call it over last several years starting with the guy who has the ball in his hands the most, JC. There will be vets availible and I prefer somebody else at this point. Some guys just need a change of scenery...JC may be that way as well...so while we both understand this offense may take a couple years, getting a vet or guy who hasnt succeeded (D. Anderson, Brady Quinn, etc.) to get under center I wouldnt see as taking a substantial risk (unless we give a stupid ass contract). I just cant deal with JC anymore, im officially done with him. But before we can get there we need a new GM and an established NFL coach.

This is where we disagree, but I can understand where you're coming from. I don't think the Skins should draft a QB high or trade picks for one. If there's a guy out there, go get him. However, if he's not proven, I would force him to compete with Colt and JC (who isn't a free agent under the new system).

I have no problem with replacing Jason with the future of the team or just a holdover to get us through rebuilding, but I'm not really in favor of change for the sake of change. I think that if you believe you can upgrade the QB position in the offseason without sacrificing anything, you have to do it, but I don't think you can go get Vince Young or a Jamarcus Russell type and think that everything is solved. If those are the options (they may be) then keeping JC and having him compete with Campbell might be the best option.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by jdlea

This is where we disagree, but I can understand where you're coming from. I don't think the Skins should draft a QB high or trade picks for one. If there's a guy out there, go get him. However, if he's not proven, I would force him to compete with Colt and JC (who isn't a free agent under the new system).

I have no problem with replacing Jason with the future of the team or just a holdover to get us through rebuilding, but I'm not really in favor of change for the sake of change. I think that if you believe you can upgrade the QB position in the offseason without sacrificing anything, you have to do it, but I don't think you can go get Vince Young or a Jamarcus Russell type and think that everything is solved. If those are the options (they may be) then keeping JC and having him compete with Campbell might be the best option.

We could draft o-line in the 1st and 2nd rounds and then go QB in the 4th round. What do you think?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Lotus

We could draft o-line in the 1st and 2nd rounds and then go QB in the 4th round. What do you think?

That sounds like the plan. Another scenario would be to trade down and also get a 3rd or 4th rounder.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

That sounds like the plan. Another scenario would be to trade down and also get a 3rd or 4th rounder.

Good idea!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

That sounds like the plan. Another scenario would be to trade down and also get a 3rd or 4th rounder.

I like the idea. We need a quality RB too. We need three different RBs, not three versions of CP.

This sounds good to me.

1st = OT
2nd = OG
4th = QB or RB
5th = C
6th = OG
7th = OT

It's a shame we're already talking about the draft. I don't see any Cs this year as good as Mack. If I were the GM, I'd trade Landry, Portis, and Moss for him.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

We need a quality RB to

Have you seen Toby Gerhart RB from Stanford play? The guy is an absolute beast, in my opinion this guy will be the next Riggins. He had 15 TD's last year and so far 13 for this year.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Have you seen Toby Gerhart RB from Stanford play? The guy is an absolute beast, in my opinion this guy will be the next Riggins. He had 15 TD's last year and so far 13 for this year.

Yeah, I looked him up after I read one of your posts last night. I don't get to see a lot of West Coast football in Virginia. We see ACC and SEC stuff. Do you have any UTUBES?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Yeah, I looked him up after I read one of your posts last night. I don't get to see a lot of West Coast football in Virginia. We see ACC and SEC stuff. Do you have any UTUBES?

Here you go:

YouTube - Toby Gerhart top powerback in 2010 draft

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Have you seen Toby Gerhart RB from Stanford play? The guy is an absolute beast, in my opinion this guy will be the next Riggins. He had 15 TD's last year and so far 13 for this year.

I've watched a lot of Gerhart this year. He's solid. I've heard the comparisons to Riggins and Alstott, but I can't help but wondering if the reason for that isn't as much due to skills as it is due to...well, you know

I certainly wouldn't object to him in the mid-rounds though

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I certainly wouldn't object to him in the mid-rounds though

That's my hope that he lasts into the 4th round and we snap him up.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I like the idea. We need a quality RB too. We need three different RBs, not three versions of CP.

This sounds good to me.

1st = OT
2nd = OG
4th = QB or RB
5th = C
6th = OG
7th = OT

It's a shame we're already talking about the draft. I don't see any Cs this year as good as Mack. If I were the GM, I'd trade Landry, Portis, and Moss for him.

Like the list but i would put a Center over the OG. I think we can get by with the ones we have while Rabach is horrid.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Like the list but i would put a Center over the OG. I think we can get by with the ones we have while Rabach is horrid.

Do you have any names?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Lotus

We could draft o-line in the 1st and 2nd rounds and then go QB in the 4th round. What do you think?

This is actually what I would recommend, but would you install the 4th rounder immediately or do you have him sit a year? That's the big question. If you have him sit, one of Colt, Campbell, Collins, or a FA acquisition has to start next season.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by jdlea

This is actually what I would recommend, but would you install the 4th rounder immediately or do you have him sit a year? That's the big question. If you have him sit, one of Colt, Campbell, Collins, or a FA acquisition has to start next season.

I suppose it depends on how well he can grasp the offense in training camp. But, theoretically, we would need to keep someone else around to mind the store while the young guy matured.