Randle El Fair Catches His Way to the Bench

The Goat · 11-03-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Randle El should have always been the slot receiver since the day he got here, and he might have been had Lloyd not been a colossal bust for us

It's almost like one bust leads to another!

Beemnseven · 11-04-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

nothing for us? that's one of the dumbest things i have read on here, granted he is not a number two receiver, we got him for that position(not his fault) and he has done pretty damn good for us as far as a receiver, to say he has done nothing for us is just crazy to me, but as for special teams he should have been replaced two years ago he hasn't done much for us there and seems to be getting worse, but he has been a damn good receiver across the middle somthing we have lacked since lossing lav coles

In terms of what he was supposed to do for our offense, he simply hasn't produced. Yes, he catches some passes. Occasionally he'll have a 6 or 7 catch game. Whoopee. Go back and listen to Gibbs rave about his abilities on special teams when we first signed him. ARE has been woefully inept as a punt returner.

And no, you cannot cite him as an example of a receiver who has been "pretty damn good" for us. In fact, outside of Moss, (and even he has been more down than up recently) you can't say that about ANY receiver for the Washington Redskins for years. Just look at our offense since 2006 -- what "damn good" contribution have you seen from Randle El? The offense has done nothing but suck balls.

Again, it's not his fault that he was signed and overpaid. As I said in my original post, he exemplifies the fallacy of the philosophy of this front office.

MTK · 11-04-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint

I would to be honest, but I still wouldnt want him to be back there as a punt returner. He just doesnt put fear in anyone now.

I don't want him on returns either, he should have been replaced a while ago.

However as a receiver he's not a horrible #3 guy. Granted he is way overpaid but that's a function of how our FO works. If he were a vet min guy I think people would look at him differently.

SkinFanatic · 11-04-2009, 08:25 AM

The Redskins have a 10 year history under DS of signing has-beens at the end of there careers at the expense of draft picks and the salary cap (remember Dana Stubblefield, Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, etc., etc.). It amazes me how every year the fans eat it up like we were just that one guy away from being a contender. Randle El is just one more example. No draft picks, but also no production. Unfortunately, rebuilding this team is going to be a long haul. When we do wise up and get some real football guys in charge, I hope the die-hards are ready for a long rebuilding process. Let's just hope the Danny can keep someone around long-enough to do it right.

Beemnseven · 11-04-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Thomas and Kelly are the ones that have done nothing if you want to talk about production.

If ARE was making the vet min would you think differently?

Thomas and Kelly suck too. But that doesn't change the fact that Randle El has been a miserable free agent pickup. Can you think of one game since 2006 where we could collectively say, "thank goodness we signed Randle El, he REALLY came through for us today."

As far as his salary goes, it would be nice if we built this team with guys who are hungry, and eager to prove themselves as opposed to flashy guys who in the back of their minds know they will be well compensated no matter how they produce. Antwaan personifies that failed approach.

MTK · 11-04-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Thomas and Kelly suck too. But that doesn't change the fact that Randle El has been a miserable free agent pickup. Can you think of one game since 2006 where we could collectively say, "thank goodness we signed Randle El, he REALLY came through for us today."

As far as his salary goes, it would be nice if we built this team with guys who are hungry, and eager to prove themselves as opposed to flashy guys who in the back of their minds know they will be well compensated no matter how they produce. Antwaan personifies that failed approach.

If ARE is a miserable pickup as you say, what does that make someone like Lloyd?

Ruhskins · 11-04-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinFanatic

The Redskins have a 10 year history under DS of signing has-beens at the end of there careers at the expense of draft picks and the salary cap (remember Dana Stubblefield, Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, etc., etc.). It amazes me how every year the fans eat it up like we were just that one guy away from being a contender. Randle El is just one more example. No draft picks, but also no production. Unfortunately, rebuilding this team is going to be a long haul. When we do wise up and get some real football guys in charge, I hope the die-hards are ready for a long rebuilding process. Let's just hope the Danny can keep someone around long-enough to do it right.

Actually, Randle El came under Gibbs' watch, and as Matty said the Lloyd pick up was worst. At least we didn't was picks on ARE.

SmootSmack · 11-04-2009, 09:28 AM

Snyder had nothing to do with Stubbefield, who by the way is in a messed up state right now

http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_13685378

Monkeydad · 11-04-2009, 10:14 AM

Finally...

mlmdub130 · 11-04-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Snyder had nothing to do with Stubbefield, who by the way is in a messed up state right now

http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_13685378

damn, just another example of how steriods ruin sports and sports stars

SmootSmack · 11-04-2009, 11:48 AM

I used to spend a lot of time with Stubblefield back in the day, never roided up with him though, just interviews and what not. And he was so nice, just extremely nice (and great at grilling). I wanted him off the team like any other Redskin fan back then, because he kinda sucked. But as a person he was a true joy to be around...just goes to show you never how people are behind closed doors

pg86 · 11-04-2009, 12:41 PM

Hey I watched Hall when he played for VT guys not a bad returner I kinda scratch my head about why he wasn't already back there. Don't get me wrong I like what Randle El brings to the table but he's not getting it done back there!

warpaint · 11-04-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I used to spend a lot of time with Stubblefield back in the day, never roided up with him though, just interviews and what not. And he was so nice, just extremely nice (and great at grilling). I wanted him off the team like any other Redskin fan back then, because he kinda sucked. But as a person he was a true joy to be around...just goes to show you never how people are behind closed doors

I know this is off topic. What do you do for a living to have been able to interact with some of these players? Ive read some of your comments about other players and its got me wondering/jealous.

warpaint · 11-04-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Thomas and Kelly suck too. But that doesn't change the fact that Randle El has been a miserable free agent pickup.

I think it is to early to say that. True they haven't done any thing of yet,but neither has any one on offense. JC has not done anything to make any one look good, he misses wide open recievers, wide open recievers drop catchable balls, the O-line cant open up a run lane, RB's cant find a hole when they do they run out of gas, JC doesn't have enough time to throw, while running the 2 minute offense thats when Zorn decides to jump in throw the timing off by calling plays. Zorn did finally get something right benching ARE or was it a diffrent set of eyes.

SmootSmack · 11-04-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint

I know this is off topic. What do you do for a living to have been able to interact with some of these players? Ive read some of your comments about other players and its got me wondering/jealous.

Sports media guy, various jobs at various levels for the last decade or so

11-04-2009, 08:25 AM	#79
SkinFanatic Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 65 Posts: 49	Re: Randle El Fair Catches His Way to the Bench The Redskins have a 10 year history under DS of signing has-beens at the end of there careers at the expense of draft picks and the salary cap (remember Dana Stubblefield, Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, etc., etc.). It amazes me how every year the fans eat it up like we were just that one guy away from being a contender. Randle El is just one more example. No draft picks, but also no production. Unfortunately, rebuilding this team is going to be a long haul. When we do wise up and get some real football guys in charge, I hope the die-hards are ready for a long rebuilding process. Let's just hope the Danny can keep someone around long-enough to do it right. __________________ GM First

11-04-2009, 09:28 AM	#83
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Randle El Fair Catches His Way to the Bench Snyder had nothing to do with Stubbefield, who by the way is in a messed up state right now http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_13685378 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-04-2009, 10:14 AM	#84
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11-04-2009, 11:48 AM	#86
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Randle El Fair Catches His Way to the Bench I used to spend a lot of time with Stubblefield back in the day, never roided up with him though, just interviews and what not. And he was so nice, just extremely nice (and great at grilling). I wanted him off the team like any other Redskin fan back then, because he kinda sucked. But as a person he was a true joy to be around...just goes to show you never how people are behind closed doors __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-04-2009, 12:41 PM	#87
pg86 No new threads for you Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,959	Re: Randle El Fair Catches His Way to the Bench Hey I watched Hall when he played for VT guys not a bad returner I kinda scratch my head about why he wasn't already back there. Don't get me wrong I like what Randle El brings to the table but he's not getting it done back there!

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