RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

[The Goat]

Rogers strikes me as somethin as a headcase, though one could argue the way he's been coached could be the reason I guess. That said he's not a shutdown corner against the top WR in football, which sucks because it we don't have anyone else to fill that role either. The other big thing about Rogers is his horrible ball skills, so he can't be a big play type of corner. I REALLY doubt there will be much of a market for him. He'll go somewhere next year but it won't be an impressive contract.

Totally agree w/ GTripp: Blache is a crap coach. There's no reason IMO he should still have a job because his group is definitely not playing up its potential and he's not returning anyway. Fire him and give the best position coach a shot to see what we might have going for next year.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Rogers strikes me as somethin as a headcase, though one could argue the way he's been coached could be the reason I guess. That said he's not a shutdown corner against the top WR in football, which sucks because it we don't have anyone else to fill that role either. The other big thing about Rogers is his horrible ball skills, so he can't be a big play type of corner. I REALLY doubt there will be much of a market for him. He'll go somewhere next year but it won't be an impressive contract.

Totally agree w/ GTripp: Blache is a crap coach. There's no reason IMO he should still have a job because his group is definitely not playing up its potential and he's not returning anyway. Fire him and give the best position coach a shot to see what we might have going for next year.

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

Great post. Losing the way have this season can create a mob mentality against certain players. Last week it was Landry, this week it is Rogers. It is so easy to hate your DB's. When they make a mistake the results is usually a TD or something costly. All DB's will eventually get beat. There is no such thing a "shut down corner". It is impossible.
Not to say that some of the complaints on Rogers like attitude, no hands and not living up to expectations are legitimate. These things are true to varying degrees. But he is a very serviceable corner and while he drops many potential interceptions and gets beat on occasion, the guy is a better than average corner. I think the anger and hate on this thread is a bit over the top.
I hate to see another hole created in our lineup that will need to be filled, just because he is unpopular. He have other needs, lets not create another.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

Bulger, Stafford, Johnson, Delhomme, and Cassel. Did I miss anyone?

Actually, you could add Orton to that list of craptacular QBs, but he threw for so many yards that we're actually not first, second, or third against the pass anymore. Actually, it turns out that we don't even bother to cover receivers going down the field anymore.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

because weve had the easiest schedule of all time.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by skinster

because weve had the easiest schedule of all time.

I think this point has been lost on a lot of us, we had such a cupcake schedule. Such a waste...

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

because turner hit us up for 170 last week and they didn't have to pass, los is a bum, and a bust, just a shame we won't get dick for him if he is benched the rest of the season

[GMScud]

"I ain't even gonna think about no future here."

Huh. Well good riddance then. Seems like Carlos has always had an attitude problem, he certainly doesn't seem to care at all right now, he sounds like a punk, and he's got shoehorns for hands. Let's see what we've got in Barnes and Tryon.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GMScud

"I ain't even gonna think about no future here."

Huh. Well good riddance then. Seems like Carlos has always had an attitude problem, he certainly doesn't seem to care at all right now, he sounds like a punk, and he's got shoehorns for hands. Good riddance. Let's see what we've got in Barnes and Tryon.

I'm definitely in that, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" group. I think he thinks a premiere CB when in reality he's just okay. Like 50/50, sometimes he'll get the job done, sometimes he'll bite on a double move and then totally give up on a play. In my mind, that's not good enough. I dunno what's worse D.Hall blowing tackles or Rogers biting on WRs and then giving up on the play. But I digress.

But watch, we'll trade Rogers away and he goes to another team and ends up like HOF material. Doesn't that shit always happen to us?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm definitely in that, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" group. I think he thinks a premiere CB when in reality he's just okay. Like 50/50, sometimes he'll get the job done, sometimes he'll bite on a double move and then totally give up on a play. In my mind, that's not good enough. I dunno what's worse D.Hall blowing tackles or Rogers biting on WRs and then giving up on the play. But I digress.

But watch, we'll trade Rogers away and he goes to another team and ends up like HOF material. Doesn't that shit always happen to us?

Honestly I don't care, this dude has a piss poor attitude. Shit, I'll take D. Hall over Rogers at anytime right now...at least Hall gets picks, I know that's not everything that a CB should do, but Rogers isn't showing anything. I just hope we have a better FO that will find a way to get compensation for him.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm definitely in that, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" group. I think he thinks a premiere CB when in reality he's just okay. Like 50/50, sometimes he'll get the job done, sometimes he'll bite on a double move and then totally give up on a play. In my mind, that's not good enough. I dunno what's worse D.Hall blowing tackles or Rogers biting on WRs and then giving up on the play. But I digress.

But watch, we'll trade Rogers away and he goes to another team and ends up like HOF material. Doesn't that shit always happen to us?

I think the reason he's 50/50 and not the premier player he should be is all in his mind. He thinks he's made it so he doesnt put his head down and go to work. He seems to be the type of guy that doesnt want to admit he's got work to do when it's not going good, and he would rather just blame someone else or the circumstances.