T.O. Thoughts

[Big C]

oh yeah, and ppl call mcnair the toughest guy cuz he plays through injuries and last time i checked he was black

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Big C

oh yeah, and ppl call mcnair the toughest guy cuz he plays through injuries and last time i checked he was black

Yeah i really don't think race has anything to do with it. Favre is held up like he's a warrior god for whatever reason but I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he is white. I think it goes more along the lines of hype. Sorta like how somehow people have this idea that Mike Alstott is the greatest FB ever but is really only average and always has been. He's only considered good because Madden spends entire Bucs games talking about him. Favre is a lot the same way. He's a fantastic QB that has won superbowls so he gets passes on his ginormous mistakes he's made since the media has annoited him. He has always made ridiculous errors. TO is a contorversial character whom the media has little true respect for so therefore nobody cares to write about how great his effort was.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yeah i really don't think race has anything to do with it. Favre is held up like he's a warrior god for whatever reason but I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he is white.

I'm with you in that I don't see any media backlash against TO or even Moss having to do with racism.

The Brett Favre deal is something different though. Sure, he's a tough guy, and has been christened a warrior since he's the brave sturdy southern boy from Mississippi who braved the cold at Lambeau and led his team to victory almost all the time - but the reason Favre, and Greenbay are idolized and idealized so much is cuz they're the original success story of the league - Lombardi, and his 5 championships in the 60s. In this league, it has become anathema to criticize the Packers, any of their players, or their fans since they represent how pro-football started out..,old-school, blue collar, small-town, hardworking people coaching, playing, and most importantly, watching the game. The NFL wants to be seen as preserving that tradition. All the other NFL success stories have been in bigger cities...Dallas, Pitt, DC, NY, San Fran, LA (Rams), and now Boston. Though Pittsburgh is now a big city, it still has those same blue-collar roots, and the Steelers organization and their fans are pampered in much the same way as Green Bay.

The bottom line is that the GB fans deserved all they got from Moss - it is an unforgivable double standard to condone the GB fans mooning of the visiting team's bus, but penalize players that harmlessly stick it to the GB fans.

I idolize TO for desecrating the Star in Texas stadium. He is a true warrior for the way he played yesterday, but he does need to get that stick out of his ass and get over his persecution complex - no one's criticizing him for yesterday's performance...every member of the media I heard was lauding his effort.