Landry is now a bust!

WaldSkins · 12-09-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

You guys wanting to ship him out are crazy, what's to guarantee that you get someone halfway as good in the 3rd, even at another position? Yeah he gets on my nerves with his celebrations (mostly because he extends them way too long) but he's a great talent, they just need to find the best way to use him.

Jerry Gray will next season

over the mountain · 12-09-2009, 10:35 AM

i think LL could be a great wrecking ball of a SS. i think weve all known that LL is best suited to play his natural college position of SS and not FS.

even with his solid deep cover skills he kept up all of last year.

he has to be moved to SS, to bad springs isnt around to be the FS.

wolfeskins · 12-09-2009, 10:40 AM

no. read strength #4 and weakness #2 on your chart. landry was the help, he should not have jumped the rout. the guy illustrating the video is wrong. smoot should not be over the top of landry, it's the other way around.

mlmdub130 · 12-09-2009, 11:10 AM

^ i agree, and i don't know how you can watch that video and not think both td's were all on landry biting on a double move.

the first was his hands down and it was a terrible move he bit on. the second was actualy a great move on meechams part but to say that over top across the middle was smoots responsibility, isn't right, landry was the help and he let the wideout burn him yet again.

and after watching those plays again i don't see how he can't get benched after los got benched for pretty much the same thing

freddyg12 · 12-09-2009, 11:15 AM

Kareem Moore doesn't have the speed, or range as they say, that LL does. But he might be better suited to playing deep in cover 2, so long as he doesn't try & get extra yardage on int. returns!

Landry's talent & ability are working against him similar to ST's early days when he liked to gamble a lot. If Rogers can be sat down for repetitive biting, I would say Landry should've been sat down long ago, at least for a few plays so that the staff can talk to him. Maybe that's already been done? If so, he isn't learning.

warriorzpath · 12-09-2009, 11:21 AM

Landry's not playing great right now and didn't help when the redskins defense allowed the big plays. But he is not a bust. A bust is a player that is expected to be great, but doesn't contribute at all. Landry contributes to this team.

He needs to make some major adjustments to his game at FS, but it's too extreme to call him a bust.

mlmdub130 · 12-09-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Landry's not playing great right now and didn't help when the redskins defense allowed the big plays. But he is not a bust. A bust is a player that is expected to be great, but doesn't contribute at all. Landry contributes to this team.
He needs to make some major adjustments to his game at FS, but it's too extreme to call him a bust.

being selected 6th overall means alot more than just contributing, if he doesn't improve alot next year then he will be a bust because we could have gotten alot more of a contributor with that pick

warriorzpath · 12-09-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

being selected 6th overall means alot more than just contributing, if he doesn't improve alot next year then he will be a bust because we could have gotten alot more of a contributor with that pick

Some recent busts for the redskins were Taylor Jacobs, Desmond Howard, Heath Shuler, Brandon Lloyd, and Adam Archuletta. I don't think Landry is in that category. I understand that you don't think that he's playing well, but I think you use the word- bust - too lightly.

wilsowilso · 12-09-2009, 11:55 AM

This is the first time I have ever heard the "where was the help argument" to defend a free safety from his absolute number one responsibility.

It's quite simply one of the worst football related arguments I have ever seen in all my life.

Maybe Albert Haynesworth should have given
Laron "Responsibilty is not what I do" Landry help over the top.

Landry is quite simply the most undisciplined player in the entire NFL.

Please put him at SS or trade him. Right now he is a massive liabilty to the team.

MTK · 12-09-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Some recent busts for the redskins were Taylor Jacobs, Desmond Howard, Heath Shuler, Brandon Lloyd, and Adam Archuletta. I don't think Landry is in that category. I understand that you don't think that he's playing well, but I think you use the word- bust - too lightly.

I think alot of folks suffer from a very loose interpretation of what bust really means.

mlmdub130 · 12-09-2009, 11:59 AM

if he plays like this next year and doesn't learn from his mistakes, then he will be a bust and i'm not using the term to lightly

out of the 2007 1st rounders there are 8 probowlers 6 were selected after landry, including a cornerback and a safety

not to mention adrian peterson was drafted right after him

i'm not sayin he is a bust right now, but if he doesn't make vast improvements by next year you bet your ass he is a bust

MTK · 12-09-2009, 12:04 PM

He can continue on his current course and he will never be considered a bust, sorry. Busts don't rack up 12 tackles, 1 sack, and 3 pass defenses in a game. If he was a bust he wouldn't even be on the field.

Monkeydad · 12-09-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He can continue on his current course and he will never be considered a bust, sorry. Busts don't rack up 12 tackles, 1 sack, and 3 pass defenses in a game. If he was a bust he wouldn't even be on the field.

Correct.

He's far from a bust. He played very well overall in that last game except for the big plays he gave up.

He's undisciplined and a little inconsistent, but nowhere close to being a bust. For every bad play he gives up or mistake he makes, he'll have 10 good ones that go unnoticed.

mlmdub130 · 12-09-2009, 12:12 PM

i'm considering the pick a bust, yeah landry is a damn good player, needs coaching but pretty damn good, but as far as the pick is concerned it will be a bust if there isn't vast improvement next year.

he is a middle of the pack saftey in the nfl right now, being selected in the top ten he should be better.

if he had been selected in the second round or even in the high 20's this wouldn't even be a question right now

MTK · 12-09-2009, 12:16 PM

People generally have an over-inflated view of other team's players, and are overly critical of our own guys. I think this is definitely the case with Landry. Someone recently said he's not even a top 30 safety? I mean, really? I would love to hear the list of 30 guys who are better than him.

12-09-2009, 10:35 AM	#197
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Landry is now a bust! i think LL could be a great wrecking ball of a SS. i think weve all known that LL is best suited to play his natural college position of SS and not FS. even with his solid deep cover skills he kept up all of last year. he has to be moved to SS, to bad springs isnt around to be the FS. __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

12-09-2009, 10:40 AM	#198
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Landry is now a bust! no. read strength #4 and weakness #2 on your chart. landry was the help, he should not have jumped the rout. the guy illustrating the video is wrong. smoot should not be over the top of landry, it's the other way around. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

12-09-2009, 11:10 AM	#199
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 42 Posts: 3,238	Re: Landry is now a bust! ^ i agree, and i don't know how you can watch that video and not think both td's were all on landry biting on a double move. the first was his hands down and it was a terrible move he bit on. the second was actualy a great move on meechams part but to say that over top across the middle was smoots responsibility, isn't right, landry was the help and he let the wideout burn him yet again. and after watching those plays again i don't see how he can't get benched after los got benched for pretty much the same thing __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-09-2009, 11:15 AM	#200
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Landry is now a bust! Kareem Moore doesn't have the speed, or range as they say, that LL does. But he might be better suited to playing deep in cover 2, so long as he doesn't try & get extra yardage on int. returns! Landry's talent & ability are working against him similar to ST's early days when he liked to gamble a lot. If Rogers can be sat down for repetitive biting, I would say Landry should've been sat down long ago, at least for a few plays so that the staff can talk to him. Maybe that's already been done? If so, he isn't learning.

12-09-2009, 11:21 AM	#201
warriorzpath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,880	Re: Landry is now a bust! Landry's not playing great right now and didn't help when the redskins defense allowed the big plays. But he is not a bust. A bust is a player that is expected to be great, but doesn't contribute at all. Landry contributes to this team. He needs to make some major adjustments to his game at FS, but it's too extreme to call him a bust.

12-09-2009, 11:55 AM	#204
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Landry is now a bust! This is the first time I have ever heard the "where was the help argument" to defend a free safety from his absolute number one responsibility. It's quite simply one of the worst football related arguments I have ever seen in all my life. Maybe Albert Haynesworth should have given Laron "Responsibilty is not what I do" Landry help over the top. Landry is quite simply the most undisciplined player in the entire NFL. Please put him at SS or trade him. Right now he is a massive liabilty to the team.

12-09-2009, 11:59 AM	#206
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 42 Posts: 3,238	Re: Landry is now a bust! if he plays like this next year and doesn't learn from his mistakes, then he will be a bust and i'm not using the term to lightly out of the 2007 1st rounders there are 8 probowlers 6 were selected after landry, including a cornerback and a safety not to mention adrian peterson was drafted right after him i'm not sayin he is a bust right now, but if he doesn't make vast improvements by next year you bet your ass he is a bust __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-09-2009, 12:04 PM	#207
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	Re: Landry is now a bust! He can continue on his current course and he will never be considered a bust, sorry. Busts don't rack up 12 tackles, 1 sack, and 3 pass defenses in a game. If he was a bust he wouldn't even be on the field. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-09-2009, 12:12 PM	#209
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 42 Posts: 3,238	Re: Landry is now a bust! i'm considering the pick a bust, yeah landry is a damn good player, needs coaching but pretty damn good, but as far as the pick is concerned it will be a bust if there isn't vast improvement next year. he is a middle of the pack saftey in the nfl right now, being selected in the top ten he should be better. if he had been selected in the second round or even in the high 20's this wouldn't even be a question right now __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-09-2009, 12:16 PM	#210
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	Re: Landry is now a bust! People generally have an over-inflated view of other team's players, and are overly critical of our own guys. I think this is definitely the case with Landry. Someone recently said he's not even a top 30 safety? I mean, really? I would love to hear the list of 30 guys who are better than him. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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