Holmgren Agrees to Take Over Browns

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What makes Holmgren such a great choice to be GM?

Well if he came here, i think he'd have enough of Snyder's respect that Snyder would be less inclined to "meddle."

Also, for what its worth, Dinello over on that other forum said his contact with [the Browns] told him Holmgren said he was too old to work in the "toxic" environment here and that he's been informed (presumably from Zorn) that Zorn and Campbell will be out after the season and that Cerrato will be the GM.

Dinello doesn't post there very often but he's got about a 50/50 track record so take all of this with a grain of salt. I beleive he has a credible source, but you never know if what people's sources being told is true or current.

If true, i've got mixed feelings. Cerrato's done an above-average job drafting players, but I don't trust him to 1) select a capable head coach and 2) Do what he feels is best for the team if it conflicts with what Snyder wants.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Well if he came here, i think he'd have enough of Snyder's respect that Snyder would be less inclined to "meddle."

Also, for what its worth, Dinello over on that other forum said his contact with [the Browns] told him Holmgren said he was too old to work in the "toxic" environment here and that he's been informed (presumably from Zorn) that Zorn and Campbell will be out after the season and that Cerrato will be the GM.

Dinello doesn't post there very often but he's got about a 50/50 track record so take all of this with a grain of salt. I beleive he has a credible source, but you never know if what people's sources being told is true or current.

If true, i've got mixed feelings. Cerrato's done an above-average job drafting players, but I don't trust him to 1) select a capable head coach and 2) Do what he feels is best for the team if it conflicts with what Snyder wants.

Interesting tidbits. It will be interesting to see where Holmgren can work. He's had the benefit of being in charge under Paul Allen, the most hands-off owner in the league. And nothing against Seattle. But I would suspect that the fans are a bit more forgiving there than in Cleveland or DC

As to Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato. I think Zorn is gone. Campbell is probably 30% likely to stay (but it's still possible), and Cerrato is probably about 70% (but he won't be the GM...allegedy)

No source is 100% right.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Interesting tidbits. It will be interesting to see where Holmgren can work. He's had the benefit of being in charge under Paul Allen, the most hands-off owner in the league. And nothing against Seattle. But I would suspect that the fans are a bit more forgiving there than in Cleveland or DC

As to Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato. I think Zorn is gone. Campbell is probably 30% likely to stay (but it's still possible), and Cerrato is probably about 70% (but he won't be the GM...allegedy)

No source is 100% right.

If you are right, this team is never going to win with a rebuild mentality every 2 to 3 years. Whatever happened to that patience Danny learned from Gibbs?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If you are right, this team is never going to win with a rebuild mentality every 2 to 3 years. Whatever happened to that patience Danny learned from Gibbs?

He lied, hence all the talk about a new coach. To his credit though the talk is not coming from the FO, it's coming from fans and media types. I won't entertain the notion of a new coach until Zorn is actually fired.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Interesting tidbits. It will be interesting to see where Holmgren can work. He's had the benefit of being in charge under Paul Allen, the most hands-off owner in the league. And nothing against Seattle. But I would suspect that the fans are a bit more forgiving there than in Cleveland or DC

As to Zorn, Campbell, and Cerrato. I think Zorn is gone. Campbell is probably 30% likely to stay (but it's still possible), and Cerrato is probably about 70% (but he won't be the GM...allegedy)

No source is 100% right.

Based on your intel, could you answer the following: Is Cerrato going to be:
A) Promoted (Team President or something like that)
B) Demoted (Director of College Scouting or something like that)
C) Transfered (Senior Executive Vice President of Media Operations or something like that)
D) Fired outright

If B, and the new GM will be someone in-house, I imagine it could create for some awkward situations as someone who now reports (directly or indirectly) to Cerrato would become his boss. I don't see that arrangement working well at all.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Based on your intel, could you answer the following: Is Cerrato going to be:
A) Promoted (Team President or something like that)
B) Demoted (Director of College Scouting or something like that)
C) Transfered (Senior Executive Vice President of Media Operations or something like that)
D) Fired outright

If B, and the new GM will be someone in-house, I imagine it could create for some awkward situations as someone who now reports (directly or indirectly) to Cerrato would become his boss. I don't see that arrangement working well at all.

I don't know. The most fervent speculation has been a combination of A/C and I guess by default a little of B. Think Falcons

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know. The most fervent speculation has been a combination of A/C and I guess by default a little of B. Think Falcons

Interesting. I certainly think he'd be perfect running our college scouting operations, but I doubt he'd be "satisfied" in that sort of role.