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Old 12-22-2009, 12:05 AM   #1
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants)

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You can't use the head-to-head argument, and then assert that the Giants are the 3rd best team in the division. They kick our ass every time we play them, but we always match up fine with Philadelphia and Dallas. So, really, it appears to just be a Giants gap.

I don't think you need to say that the Giants are the cream of division if their not, but we've been out-coached every time we've played them since Grilliams left. And it's more than just Blache. We could replace him, and there would still be a meaningful gap. But that seems like the easiest way to close it.
Well, they're the third best team in the division right now in terms of wins.

ESPN just ran a stat: Redskins are 15-32 against the NFC East since 2002. That's a pretty big gap if you ask me.

We aren't anywhere close to threatening this division.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:13 AM   #2
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants)

Bruce Allen - The team is worse with you then it was with Vinny. Can't believe I'm going to say this but we need to bring back Vinny ASAP. Bruce Allen has never won a game since he was named the Redskins GM. Vinny on the other hand won 12 since 2008, and that doesn't include preseason games. Face it guys, Vinny was the best thing that ever happened to this team.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:14 AM   #3
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Bruce Allen - The team is worse with you then it was with Vinny. Can't believe I'm going to say this but we need to bring back Vinny ASAP. Bruce Allen has never won a game since he was named the Redskins GM. Vinny on the other hand won 12 since 2008, and that doesn't include preseason games. Face it guys, Vinny was the best thing that ever happened to this team.


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Old 12-22-2009, 12:18 AM   #4
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Bruce Allen - The team is worse with you then it was with Vinny. Can't believe I'm going to say this but we need to bring back Vinny ASAP. Bruce Allen has never won a game since he was named the Redskins GM. Vinny on the other hand won 12 since 2008, and that doesn't include preseason games. Face it guys, Vinny was the best thing that ever happened to this team.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:15 AM   #5
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Well, they're the third best team in the division right now in terms of wins.

ESPN just ran a stat: Redskins are 15-32 against the NFC East since 2002. That's a pretty big gap if you ask me.

We aren't anywhere close to threatening this division.
Well, right, we have to be better than the Giants, and the other teams. My point was that the talent between us and the Giants appears to be comparable, but they always go into the game knowing exactly how we plan to attack them. And it allows them to cover for such awful coverage deficiencies by taking our passing game out early and making our receivers quit.

No matter how badly they've beaten us, we've never changed our approach against them. Seems like the gap would be quite easy to close if our coaches weren't so arrogant. Blache has so much respect for the Eagles: he tries new stuff every time he plays them. He consistently schemes the Cowboys hard every game. Against Eli, he takes the week off and uses the same tired blitz packages, to which the Giants now have simple screen plays designed to take the yards we hand them without any risk.

I don't want to make it sound like I'm letting Zorn off here, his protection schemes, generally very sound, always get broken down to dust by the Giants. Quinton Ganther was our STARTING RUNNINGBACK this week, and had no idea who he was supposed to block ever. Ran just as hard as he normally does, but he wasn't seeing the field at all. Rabach was playing his own damn game out there, on a field where the Redskins can cover for his mental errors.
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Well, they're the third best team in the division right now in terms of wins.

ESPN just ran a stat: Redskins are 15-32 against the NFC East since 2002. That's a pretty big gap if you ask me.

We aren't anywhere close to threatening this division.
So that means that if you throw out the 5-1 fluke of 2005, we are 10-31 in all other division games since '02. That is Detroit Lions and Richie Kotite-Jets bad.

I'm hoping that Campbell's pummeling led Bruce Allen to the immediate conclusion that the O-line must be addressed early and often in the draft. I would argue strongly that both the 1st and 2nd round picks should be O-linemen. Vinny would probably draft another TE or WR if he was the highest rated on his board.
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