Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I never said JC is the main reason that we have been bad. Stop backing this guy if his overall record shows the truth, you just look at numbers obviously. Jc has had multiple chances to show his worth, remember this guy was just 1 pick behind Rodgers whom has become a top 10 qb.

Rodgers is a top ten QB only in the mind of dreamers. The guy took 50 sacks this year.

Campbell has shown plenty of worth. Our losing has never been about him, much as our winning has never been about him. It's been about our joke of a defense, and our offensive line which needs no introduction. Our winning was about our running game.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Rodgers is a top ten QB only in the mind of dreamers.

Campbell has shown plenty of worth. Our losing has never been about him, much as our winning has never been about him. It's been about our joke of a defense, and our offensive line which needs no introduction. Our winning was about our running game.

Gtripp you are usually right on and I always agree with you, but you'r saying that our QB has nothing to do with wins and losses? C'Mon man that's insane. Rodgers has gotten sacked more than Campbell and he has 29 Td's and has his team on a roll. Yea they are better than us but QB makes a huge difference.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Gtripp you are usually right on and I always agree with you, but you'r saying that our QB has nothing to do with wins and losses? C'Mon man that's insane. Rodgers has gotten sacked more than Campbell and he has 29 Td's and has his team on a roll. Yea they are better than us but QB makes a huge difference.

I'm not really comparing Rodgers to Campbell. I'm saying Rodgers is a top ten QB in the mind of dreamers. He won 5 games last year, 10 games this year, and he's a game below .500 in his career with a superior team to the Redskins. In essence, he's where Jason Campbell was at this point last year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not really comparing Rodgers to Campbell. I'm saying Rodgers is a top ten QB in the mind of dreamers. He won 5 games last year, 10 games this year, and he's a game below .500 in his career with a superior team to the Redskins. In essence, he's where Jason Campbell was at this point last year.

I think judging QB's by W/L is silly. Vince Young has a winning record and Rogers doesn't. Who is the better QB? If Rogers is out on the trade block like JC then numerous teams are trying to get him. No one really wanted JC and there is a reason for that. I'm not sure I'm ready to put Rogers in the top ten yet but he's well on his way. He's one of the most gifted throwers in the NFL. The guy is throwing darts in 15 degree weather. You simply can't deny his throwing talent. Yes he holds the ball too long sometimes. But so what? None of these guys are perfect. And w/ Rogers the good far outweights the bad. Rogers hands down is a stud.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think judging QB's by W/L is silly. Vince Young has a winning record and Rogers doesn't. Who is the better QB? If Rogers is out on the trade block like JC then numerous teams are trying to get him. No one really wanted JC and there is a reason for that. I'm not sure I'm ready to put Rogers in the top ten yet but he's well on his way. He's one of the most gifted throwers in the NFL. The guy is throwing darts in 15 degree weather. You simply can't deny his throwing talent. Yes he holds the ball too long sometimes. But so what? None of these guys are perfect. And w/ Rogers the good far outweights the bad. Rogers hands down is a stud.

Why is that ok for Rodgers but you hold that against Campbell for the same thing?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why is that ok for Rodgers but you hold that against Campbell for the same thing?

Rodgers has fixed that problem. Campbell hasn't.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why is that ok for Rodgers but you hold that against Campbell for the same thing?

Have you actually seen the throws Rogers makes week in and week out? JC can't consistently make enough plays in the pocket game where Rogers does it every single week. You can't even compare the two. I'll take some sacks from Rogers cause I know what he's going to give me. With JC I'll get a 5 yard dump off on 3-8.

Someone pull up the tape Charley Casserly did on Campbell. It's gotta be on You Tube. Meanwhile Collins walks in off the bench cold and drops a dime right into Moss' hands. I've seen enough of JC. It's time to move on.

[Hail to the Redskins]

All I know is... Rogers is helping me win my fantasy league...

63.9% completion, 4,100 yds, 29TDs, only 7 INTs, AND 314 rushing yards...

... all with getting sacked 50 times??

How can anyone say he isn't one of the elite QBs entering the "Teens"??

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

All I know is... Rogers is helping me win my fantasy league...

63.9% completion, 4,100 yds, 29TDs, only 7 INTs, AND 314 rushing yards...

... all with getting sacked 50 times??

How can anyone say he isn't one of the elite QBs entering the "Teens"??

Nothing on his year. Anyone with those kind of numbers can win a whole bunch of games.

Any QB who takes 50 sacks will neither have a very long career, nor a very effective one. Driver will be 35 next year. Rodgers struggled mightily against Minnesota, and they needed to get a better effort from their quarterback in those games.

Much like Campbell has struggled against New York, when his team needs it the most, Rodgers has a ton to prove before he can be a top ten QB. I wouldn't call Campbell a top ten QB either, I'm just saying that if we lower the bar far enough, I can sure as hell make a convincing argument.

[Hail to the Redskins]

I'd LOVE to "complain" or "try and put down" Campbell for throwing for 4,100yds, over 30 TDs, and less than 10 INTs...

I guess I'm still losing the logic here...

Brady took a bad loss to the Saints, so he is no longer "top 10"?? I mean sometimes guys do have off games and their teams lose for reason other than them...

and by the way...

Rogers numbers vs Minnesota this year:

Game 1: 70.3%, 384 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT
Game 2: 63.4%, 287 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT

660 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT total in 2 games... if that is "stuggling mightily" versus your number one rival (Cowboys)... you'll NEVER be happy with any Redskins QB! lol

The Packers defense gave up 68 total points in those 2 games... not sure how to blame that on Rogers...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

I'd LOVE to "complain" or "try and put down" Campbell for throwing for 4,100yds, over 30 TDs, and less than 10 INTs...

I guess I'm still losing the logic here...

Brady took a bad loss to the Saints, so he is no longer "top 10"?? I mean sometimes guys do have off games and their teams lose for reason other than them...

and by the way...

Rogers numbers vs Minnesota this year:

Game 1: 70.3%, 384 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT
Game 2: 63.4%, 287 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT

660 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT total in 2 games... if that is "stuggling mightily" versus your number one rival (Cowboys)... you'll NEVER be happy with any Redskins QB! lol

The Packers defense gave up 68 total points in those 2 games... not sure how to blame that on Rogers...

Sacks, pretty much. Cluelessness in the pocket is a great way to lose games without hurting QB rating. Campbell has had a fair share of failures of this sort, as well.

I don't think anyone said Marc Bulger was struggling mightily when he was making all those probowls with the greatest show on turf, but he and Rodgers are basically the same player.

And I'd much rather have the guy who tears up the league for two or three years in a great offense and then gets injured and takes a beating and sucks for the next five years or so than the alternative of drafting a bust. I don't think I've ever tried to call Rodgers a bust, and I think he's quite deserving of a pro bowl selection because it's a single year achievement.

But being a top ten QB, I think, is never about what you can do/win in a single year. And this year is really all Rodgers has. Lifetime, he's a .500 QB with above average numbers. Warner, Favre, Pennington, Romo are all more accomplished than this, and still play at every bit as high a level as Rodgers does.

Anyway, enough about Aaron Rodgers put downs. This is a Jason Campbell thread, and the reason that Rodgers' name isn't coming up in replacement talks is that he's a well-coached quarterback in a great organization. He shouldn't have to apologize for that.

[nyredskinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Gtripp you are usually right on and I always agree with you, but you'r saying that our QB has nothing to do with wins and losses? C'Mon man that's insane. Rodgers has gotten sacked more than Campbell and he has 29 Td's and has his team on a roll. Yea they are better than us but QB makes a huge difference.

All you have to do is watch Rogers. He brings his game with him.