Jason campbells trade value

[WaldSkins]

I like how everyone is answering that JC has zero trade value and yet it seems that everyone wants to keep him as our starting QB.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I like how everyone is answering that JC has zero trade value and yet it seems that everyone wants to keep him as our starting QB.

It's going to be hard to trade anyone with the possibility of a work stoppage in 2011. Furthermore, Campbell is the best option right now until we can develop a QB or until we have a team good enough that a rookie can come in and have success (like Flacco or Sanchez).

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It's going to be hard to trade anyone with the possibility of a work stoppage in 2011. Furthermore, Campbell is the best option right now until we can develop a QB or until we have a team good enough that a rookie can come in and have success (like Flacco or Sanchez).

I agree, there are so many intangibles' involved as far as long range planning is concerned because of the uncertainty surrounding the status of a CBA.

I've said it before, Jason Campbell is one of the most difficult QB's to evaluate mainly because of the many unsettling circumstances within the teams framework that make a fair and unbiased evaluation virtually impossible. One cannot argue that his numbers have improved each year he has been the starting QB, and there has to be some value in progress. I don't think they will trade Campbell even if it is their intention to draft a QB for the future. Despite Campbells' shortcomings, he does have value if you look at his numbers in comparison. Speculation will continue to run rampant however until the draft, free agency and all other pre-season evaluations have been exhausted.

[Lotus]

I think JC has some real trade value although it is hard to put a number on it. Maybe a #3 or #4. For all of his failings, he has a lot of starting experience and has had some success. There are some teams for whom he might be an upgrade as a starter. He would be a valued #2 for most teams.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I like how everyone is answering that JC has zero trade value and yet it seems that everyone wants to keep him as our starting QB.

I think it hard to evaluate him to give him any trade value but with better pieces around him he might be worth keeping.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I like how everyone is answering that JC has zero trade value and yet it seems that everyone wants to keep him as our starting QB.

well, he was passed over for kyle orton.yes,thats right, kyle orton

[Redskin301]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

well, he was passed over for kyle orton.yes,thats right, kyle orton

I'd take orton over Jcam any day

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Redskin301

I'd take orton over Jcam any day

thats exactly why campbell has no trade value.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Redskin301

I'd take orton over Jcam any day

I don't know how Orton is better. His team had a 2nd half of the season collapse just like the Redskins last season (and that's with a solid line and Brandon Marshall). Although, I doubt Orton will be back with Denver next season.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't know how Orton is better. His team had a 2nd half of the season collapse just like the Redskins last season (and that's with a solid line and Brandon Marshall). Although, I doubt Orton will be back with Denver next season.

But it's his first year in a new system? If it works for Jason Campbell it can work for Kyle Orton.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

well, he was passed over for kyle orton.yes,thats right, kyle orton

Sounds good - - if only it were correct. And it is not...


The Broncos did not trade Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton even up. So, the Bronx did not choose Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell even up.


Go back and look at the trade that made that move happen. I believe the entire transaction was this - - but I may be "misremembering" to use a word coined by Roger Clemens:

Bears get Jay Cutler + fifth round pick.


Broncos get Kyle Orton + TWO first round picks + a third round pick.

Do you know what "other compensation" the Skins offered the Broncos to make that deal over and above Jason Campbell? I do not. RUMOR is that all they would cough up was one first round pick + Campbell and nothing more. But I don't know if that RUMOR is right nor do I know what they may have offered in the deal.


BTW, Jay Cutler will not turn out to be worth what the Bears paid for him in terms of players and draft picks - - unless all of the Broncos picks turn out to be cabbage patch dolls.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Sounds good - - if only it were correct. And it is not....

he wasn't? we still have campbell, the bears have cutler and the broncos have orton. i call that choosing orton over campbell. if denver thought campbell was better than orton they would have accepted our offer.

[Redskin301]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

he wasn't? we still have campbell, the bears have cutler and the broncos have orton. i call that choosing orton over campbell. if denver thought campbell was better than orton they would have accepted our offer.

are offer was 2 first and Jcam the bears gave orton two 1st and a 3rd

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

he wasn't? we still have campbell, the bears have cutler and the broncos have orton. i call that choosing orton over campbell. if denver thought campbell was better than orton they would have accepted our offer.

Well McD sort of chose Orton over Cutler too.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

he wasn't? we still have campbell, the bears have cutler and the broncos have orton. i call that choosing orton over campbell. if denver thought campbell was better than orton they would have accepted our offer.

If that is what you call it and if you ignore all of the rest of the parts of the deal that went down, that is a good indication as to why there aren't a half-dozen NFL teams knocking down your doors to make you their Director of Player Personnel or their GM.


It was NEVER a choice of Cutler/Campbell/Orton. If it were that simple, Danny Boy would have bid higher in terms of money for the three of them and gotten Orotn - - whom the Skins lusted after - - than the notoriously cheap Bears. This was a deal that Danny Boy's money could not make all by itself.