Prospects for Shanahans offense/Hasletts 3-4 D

[The Goat]

The ESPN crew had a couple comments about Haslett going to a 3-4. Basically we need to find a way to maximize London's tackling ability.

I still don't agree at all w/ the strategy. The offense needs a massive overhaul to compete in the league, while running a 4-3 defense we're pretty close to set already. Switching to the 3/4 just means we have to draft acquire guys on the defensive side, which is a shame when we could literally use every draft pick on offense, sign 2 or 3 offensive FAs, and probably still be a bit below avg on offensive talent.

On the one hand I'd say Allen and Shanny's decision to go w/ Haslett and the 3-4 means they're committed to a rebuild time of at least a couple years. On the other hand I don't sense Haslett will be here long. Shanny rarely gives his defenses, both coaching and roster, a chance to put something together over the long haul. And Haslett hasn't had great success anywhere. I tend to think he's here for a year, two at most.

[HugeMonkFan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The ESPN crew had a couple comments about Haslett going to a 3-4. Basically we need to find a way to maximize London's tackling ability.

I still don't agree at all w/ the strategy. The offense needs a massive overhaul to compete in the league, while running a 4-3 defense we're pretty close to set already. Switching to the 3/4 just means we have to draft acquire guys on the defensive side, which is a shame when we could literally use every draft pick on offense, sign 2 or 3 offensive FAs, and probably still be a bit below avg on offensive talent.

On the one hand I'd say Allen and Shanny's decision to go w/ Haslett and the 3-4 means they're committed to a rebuild time of at least a couple years. On the other hand I don't sense Haslett will be here long. Shanny rarely gives his defenses, both coaching and roster, a chance to put something together over the long haul. And Haslett hasn't had great success anywhere. I tend to think he's here for a year, two at most.

i get your points and agree with you 100%...we had a piss poor offense last year but a top ten defense. they should stick with the 4-3 (plus it will screw me up in madden cause i only like playing the 4-3 lol) and draft the essentials on offense that we need and maybe pick up a receiver thats ABOVE 5'10" urgh (i know we have the young guys but we could use a Boldin or Marshall type of guy) to help whomever thats under center out.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The ESPN crew had a couple comments about Haslett going to a 3-4. Basically we need to find a way to maximize London's tackling ability.

I still don't agree at all w/ the strategy. The offense needs a massive overhaul to compete in the league, while running a 4-3 defense we're pretty close to set already. Switching to the 3/4 just means we have to draft acquire guys on the defensive side, which is a shame when we could literally use every draft pick on offense, sign 2 or 3 offensive FAs, and probably still be a bit below avg on offensive talent.
On the one hand I'd say Allen and Shanny's decision to go w/ Haslett and the 3-4 means they're committed to a rebuild time of at least a couple years. On the other hand I don't sense Haslett will be here long. Shanny rarely gives his defenses, both coaching and roster, a chance to put something together over the long haul. And Haslett hasn't had great success anywhere. I tend to think he's here for a year, two at most.

First off, it's going to be an uncapped year so we could easily get Julius Peppers and have him as an OLB, sign Larry Foote from Detroit and have him at MLB with Fletch to teach them the 3-4, then we could go after Hampton and Wilfork, but probably won't get either sense both their franchises will either tag them or resign them before free agency. That just leaves question marks at NT and the other DE position, even though I believe that Haynesworth will be one DE and Gholston, Alexander could rotate as starters as the other end and Montgomery could be our NT. We could draft someone like Vince Ogabassee from Duke as a 3-4 DE cause he's 6'6 305 and an athletic DT in a 4-3, or we could get an Arthur jones coming off an injury, he graded out to be a first rounder, corey wooten the same.

[HugeMonkFan]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

First off, it's going to be an uncapped year so we could easily get Julius Peppers and have him as an OLB, sign Larry Foote from Detroit and have him at MLB with Fletch to teach them the 3-4, then we could go after Hampton and Wilfork, but probably won't get either sense both their franchises will either tag them or resign them before free agency. That just leaves question marks at NT and the other DE position, even though I believe that Haynesworth will be one DE and Gholston, Alexander could rotate as starters as the other end and Montgomery could be our NT. We could draft someone like Vince Ogabassee from Duke as a 3-4 DE cause he's 6'6 305 and an athletic DT in a 4-3, or we could get an Arthur jones coming off an injury, he graded out to be a first rounder, corey wooten the same.

i get the uncapped year thing but what happens if the cap returns? then the team would have to get purged to get under the cap...i think they should spend a little but not go overboard...peppers would be amazing and hes made it known that hes wanted to try being a 3-4 linebacker...hell they even made mention of that on the pro bowl telecast tonight. i doubt hampton is going anywhere...wilfork on the other hand prob is. he wants a long term big money deal and its not looking like the pats are willing to do it (although im sure an uncapped year may change their minds a little). im unsure how effect AH would be in the 3 technique but who knows. I really like your sig tho...he does have 100 million reasons to play whatever the fuck position they put him in lol

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by HugeMonkFan

i get the uncapped year thing but what happens if the cap returns? then the team would have to get purged to get under the cap...i think they should spend a little but not go overboard...peppers would be amazing and hes made it known that hes wanted to try being a 3-4 linebacker...hell they even made mention of that on the pro bowl telecast tonight. i doubt hampton is going anywhere...wilfork on the other hand prob is. he wants a long term big money deal and its not looking like the pats are willing to do it (although im sure an uncapped year may change their minds a little). im unsure how effect AH would be in the 3 technique but who knows. I really like your sig tho...he does have 100 million reasons to play whatever the fuck position they put him in lol

I heard some sports analyst speculate that even if it comes back, it won't be like the old system. They said that the players do not want a cap and many owners do not want a floor. So the speculation was that the next cap might be similar to the NBA where there is some type of luxury tax for those who choose to be above it.

I understand the people who say we need to build through the draft and we need to avoid overpaid free agents. I am in the camp that when you are 4-12, you use the uncapped year to dump all the stupid contracts (ARE comes to mind) dump players who are wasting a roster spot (Betts), bring in any player that makes the team better at market value, and not be afraid to overpay for a star or two.

We need to remember that EVERYONE has said that Bruce Allen's biggest strength is contract negotiation and cap management. The days of throwing away picks for a Brandon Lloyd and then immediately tearing up their contract and giving them #1 receiver money are gone.