Congratulations to Gregg Williams

[Paintrain]

Eh, sorry to be Debbie Downer but I don't get the Grilliams love.. I mean I am happy for the Saints and the region that they won but let's not act like we were doing the same things (10 defensive TD, leading the league in turnovers) when he was here. Not to diminish his accomplishments but I don't understand the longing and affection for a guy who was up and down in his tenure here.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Eh, sorry to be Debbie Downer but I don't get the Grilliams love.. I mean I am happy for the Saints and the region that they won but let's not act like we were doing the same things (10 defensive TD, leading the league in turnovers) when he was here. Not to diminish his accomplishments but I don't understand the longing and affection for a guy who was up and down in his tenure here.

i said the same thing in another thread, i could really care less either way if he got his ring or not he isn't with us anymore so go screw. the only type of guy i would be happy for is a chris samuels type a guy who kicked ass for us day in and day out for his whole career but never got a ring, if he were to be a coach on a team and get a ring i would be genuinely happy for him, but g williams ahh whatever

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i said the same thing in another thread, i could really care less either way if he got his ring or not he isn't with us anymore so go screw. the only type of guy i would be happy for is a chris samuels type a guy who kicked ass for us day in and day out for his whole career but never got a ring, if he were to be a coach on a team and get a ring i would be genuinely happy for him, but g williams ahh whatever

So I suppose you'd think the same about Sean Taylor...he isn't with us anymore so go screw???

Williams was pretty beat up about the whole tragedy two years ago so to see him come from those extreme depths to the high of Super Bowl Champion is great for him and I'm glad to see it.

He went as far as taking upon himself to honor Taylor with a ten man alignment to start the Buffalo game. I have no problem saluting a move that like and also no problem saluting this personal achievement from adversity.

It also must be moving for him to see Sharper have such a standout season under his tutelage. Williams has come a long way and if that is something you can't respect or reflect upon then let me be the first to tell you...go screw.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

So I suppose you'd think the same about Sean Taylor...he isn't with us anymore so go screw???

Williams was pretty beat up about the whole tragedy two years ago so to see him come from those extreme depths to the high of Super Bowl Champion is great for him and I'm glad to see it.

He went as far as taking upon himself to honor Taylor with a ten man alignment to start the Buffalo game. I have no problem saluting a move that like and also no problem saluting this personal achievement from adversity.

It also must be moving for him to see Sharper have such a standout season under his tutelage. Williams has come a long way and if that is something you can't respect or reflect upon then let me be the first to tell you...go screw.

i have a different respect for people who put on the burgundy and gold if you had read the whole post you might have realized that, as far as a coach who did a pretty good job as a d cordinator here i honestly don't care. he never won us anything and he had a ton of talent that other teams aren't so lucky to have. i'm not saying he waasn't a good coach but honestly i could care less that he now has a ring

[dgack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i have a different respect for people who put on the burgundy and gold if you had read the whole post you might have realized that, as far as a coach who did a pretty good job as a d cordinator here i honestly don't care. he never won us anything and he had a ton of talent that other teams aren't so lucky to have. i'm not saying he waasn't a good coach but honestly i could care less that he now has a ring

I wonder how many head coaches who ended up winning the big one would be ruled out by this kind of philosophy? Certainly Belichick would be a few Lombardi's lighter if everyone judged him based on his record at Cleveland.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by dgack

I wonder how many head coaches who ended up winning the big one would be ruled out by this kind of philosophy? Certainly Belichick would be a few Lombardi's lighter if everyone judged him based on his record at Cleveland.

don't get me wrong i'm not discounting him as a coach or what he has done it is a great accomplishment to be a d cordinator and win a super bowl, he has had alot of success and i'm sure the best is ahead of him, i would have loved him to stay here in dc as the head coach but he didn't. we have moved on and that fact the he won a super bowl ring has no real effect on me in any way.

if it was aplayer however who was a big part of this organization then i would have different fellings about it for example chris samuels or london fletcher

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

don't get me wrong i'm not discounting him as a coach or what he has done it is a great accomplishment to be a d cordinator and win a super bowl, he has had alot of success and i'm sure the best is ahead of him, i would have loved him to stay here in dc as the head coach but he didn't. we have moved on and that fact the he won a super bowl ring has no real effect on me in any way.

if it was aplayer however who was a big part of this organization then i would have different fellings about it for example chris samuels or london fletcher

Are you aware that the only reason that Fletcher is a Redskin is because of Williams? He played MLB for him in Buffalo and then came to DC when he was a free agent based on Williams being the D-Coordinator here.

The very guy you esteem wouldn't even being suiting up in a Skins uniform on Sundays if it wasn't for Williams.

I bet you Fletch wishes he could have followed him to New Orleans when Williams left.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Eh, sorry to be Debbie Downer but I don't get the Grilliams love.. I mean I am happy for the Saints and the region that they won but let's not act like we were doing the same things (10 defensive TD, leading the league in turnovers) when he was here. Not to diminish his accomplishments but I don't understand the longing and affection for a guy who was up and down in his tenure here.

Williams defense here in DC was one of the few things that ran consistently well. Our offense and Special Teams was more the problem during Gibbs II.
Greg Williams is a highly respected defensive coordinator in the NFL and his defense was not the problem..
Sean Payton did not take $250k pay cut to get Williams for nothing.

Another reason why some Redskins fans like Williams is he was basically shown the door here after his interview with Ceratto and Snyder. I as many of the Redskins wanted Williams and the remaining Gibbs coaching staff to take over for Gibbs... not bring in Zorn and his staff.