Texas wants to rewrite the US History books

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Read what I said and a lot does not mean all. We can never make everyone like us no matter what we do. We allready spend more then any other country around the world helping poor countries. If we reduce our spending on the military then lets at least keep the money here at home. Last time I check we are running in the red. By the way whats wrong with having the strongest military in the world?

I totally agree with cutting the military budget and keeping that money at home. When you have so many social inequities and programs in desperate need of funding, you have to wonder if having a monster military budget is really the best use of our money.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I totally agree with cutting the military budget and keeping that money at home. When you have so many social inequities and programs in desperate need of funding, you have to wonder if having a monster military budget is really the best use of our money.

the ghost of Reagan haunts you

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I totally agree with cutting the military budget and keeping that money at home. When you have so many social inequities and programs in desperate need of funding, you have to wonder if having a monster military budget is really the best use of our money.

I'd pull all of the troops and bases out of foreign countries. That would save some money. I'd cut social spending too.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'd pull all of the troops and bases out of foreign countries. That would save some money. I'd cut social spending too.

So where would your savings in to?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

So where would your savings in to?

I'd put my money in my own coffers, not the governments.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'd put my money in my own coffers, not the governments.

In this hypthetical you are the gov't, where are you allocating those savings to?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

In this hypthetical you are the gov't, where are you allocating those savings to?

You realize that my version of the government is 3/4 less than it is now?

I'd cut:

The National Guard
The Department of Education
All of the Alphabet spy agencies
All subsidies
All foreign aid

I'd sell off Fannie, Freddie, and GM
I'd nationalize the Federal Reserve

How much money is that?

If I needed any more money, I'd make Congress pay their back taxes. While I'm at it, I'd drug test them and give them random breathalizers too. Just to eff with em.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You realize that my version of the government is 3/4 less than it is now?

I'd cut:

The National Guard
The Department of Education
All of the Alphabet spy agencies
All subsidies
All foreign aid

I'd sell off Fannie, Freddie, and GM
I'd nationalize the Federal Reserve

How much money is that?

If I needed any more money, I'd make Congress pay their back taxes. While I'm at it, I'd drug test them and give them random breathalizers too. Just to eff with em.

I like the way you think, sir.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I totally agree with cutting the military budget and keeping that money at home. When you have so many social inequities and programs in desperate need of funding, you have to wonder if having a monster military budget is really the best use of our money.

Well we don't live in fear of another country invading us. I don't have a problem with military spending because it keeps us safe but I do agree that we could make cuts in the programs. Remember alot of that money is used on technology that helps save lives when we are at war.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well we don't live in fear of another country invading us. I don't have a problem with military spending because it keeps us safe but I do agree that we could make cuts in the programs. Remember alot of that money is used on technology that helps save lives when we are at war.

I always feel like military spending is a double edge sword. So many new technology development comes from it and it does keep us safe, but we have so many troops all over the world.

I feel like we could make some cuts with out endangering our troops if we didn't have so many bases around the entire world.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well we don't live in fear of another country invading us. I don't have a problem with military spending because it keeps us safe but I do agree that we could make cuts in the programs. Remember alot of that money is used on technology that helps save lives when we are at war.

True , and much of that Technology is used to help make cars safer as well as more energy efficient appliances,auto's homes ect.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well we don't live in fear of another country invading us. I don't have a problem with military spending because it keeps us safe but I do agree that we could make cuts in the programs. Remember alot of that money is used on technology that helps save lives when we are at war.

Dude name me a war where our interests were truly at stake? And by that I mean interests of the nation as a whole, not the moneyed elites.


American Revolution The Big Break from England.

War of 1812 Never would have happened if we hadn't invaded Canada.

Spanish American War First war started under a false pretext(USS Maine was mined by the Spanish) later found out to that the explosion was caused because one of the powder rooms was next to the boiler, but we get the Phillipines and Cuba out of the deal.

World War I The war where Western Civ blew its collective brains out. Had nothing to do with the United States. A bunch of jealous cousins use a spat between the Hapsburgs and Serbia to jockey to redraw boundaries of their respective empires and set the stage for both facism and communism.

World War II The only war where our nation was truly attacked and face a true double pronged threat to its liberty and security, but would have never happened if we didn't butt into World War I.

Korea Commies trying to unite Korea under one banner, but it was set up mostly by American naivete of Stalin's intentions and Dean Acheson's omission of S Korea from the newly formed Pacific Defense Perimeter at the beginning of the Cold War. The North took this as a sign that we didn't care so they invaded with Russian/Chinese help. 3 years later we have over 25,000 dead and many more wounded, and the treaty line was at the 38th parallel, right where the border was before it all started. All could have been avoided if Acheson would have said touch S Korea and we will kick your ass!!

Vietnam Civil war like Korea, where many signed up with the commies, who were the best organized, and had a plan to unify Vietnam. S Vietnam was corrupt and the nation falling wouldn't have really impacted us at all. Most of SE Asia fell anyway(except Thailand) and we weren't screwed at all. 58,000 dead for a 8 year war though. A total waste


Gulf War I Ambassador April Glaspie tells Saddam that we don't care about intra Arab squabbling when he asks her point blank what the US would do if he took the N Kuwaiti oilfields by force, as his cash strapped nation needed revenue and the Kuwaitis were slant drilling into Iraq. Biggest setup in modern history. Saddam is of course demonized, since he is a brutal dictator(who cares we had no problem with him being a sadistic pig from 1978-1990 as he was our boy against the crazies in Iran)

Gulf War II Biggest waste of national treasure and blood since World War I in my book. At least in WW II you had bad guys that could attack us. Koreae and Vietnam you could make a valid case about them being wars against communism, but this one was 100% based on lies or exaggerations.

Afghanistan Supposedly was all about nailing the Taliban and bin Laden, but not sure we needed to trash the country. But of course, as in Iraq it quickly turned into another joke of nation building.