Skins interested in Gallery?/Samuels trade talks *Merged*

[Big C]

i think this would make the most sense
1st- trade #5 overall and rod gardner and or trotter for the #1 or #2 overall and select Gallery. If they dont want that, throw in a pick from next year
2nd- trade Samuels to Browns for #7 overall, that seems fair to me seeing as how hes at least a 2 time pro bowler and 26 years old, 3rd overall pick not long ago...

Anyone agree with me? that way we can still get D-Line help in Tommie Harris, or get either winslow or taylor if theyre there

[Daseal]

The browns wouldn't give up their draft pick where they could get an allstar in Taylor or Winslow for Samuels.
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[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The browns wouldn't give up their draft pick where they could get an allstar in Taylor or Winslow for Samuels.
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plus then we'd have a huge hole on our oline. the only way we get rid of Samuels this season is if its in reasonable trade with the Raiders and that's if Gallery's still available. I think the Giants be trying to play people by leaking out that they want to trade up and get Manning when they really r gonna try and grab Gallery.

And about Fitzgerald vs Williams, its not only about expirience but also talent. Roy is faster, stronger, I believe taller, and makes amazing plays after the catch whether it be just hauling tail away from the defenders or running them over. I think Fitzgerald has tons of talent and I've seen some of the miraculous catches he's had, but it's not like Williams is a slouch at catching the ball either. Those extra things he can do after the catch with his speed and size is what seperates him from Fitzgerald. And too be honest I'm just glad it's not gonna be an in-division foe who drafts either of them. I'm more worried about Dallas moving up to get Stephen Jackson or Kevin Jones.

[Showtime]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

And about Fitzgerald vs Williams, its not only about expirience but also talent. Roy is faster, stronger, I believe taller, and makes amazing plays after the catch whether it be just hauling tail away from the defenders or running them over. I think Fitzgerald has tons of talent and I've seen some of the miraculous catches he's had, but it's not like Williams is a slouch at catching the ball either. Those extra things he can do after the catch with his speed and size is what seperates him from Fitzgerald. And too be honest I'm just glad it's not gonna be an in-division foe who drafts either of them. I'm more worried about Dallas moving up to get Stephen Jackson or Kevin Jones.

Roy Williams has more speed than Fitzgerald. Thats about it. Fitzgerald has better hands, route-running abilities, understanding of the game, and work ethic. Fitzgerald posted better numbers than Roy Williams in the 2 years he played in D-1. With Fitzgerald, teams knew he was getting teh ball most of teh time, yet still couldn't stop him. Plus, bottom line is that he scores touchdowns, like Cris Carter. He set the NCAA record for most consecutive games with a TD catch. His production on the field far outweighs Roy William' combine numbers. Don't get me wrong, Roy Williams is an incredible talent, but I just think Fitz is better.

[BleedBurgundy]

I've been serving overseas for the last 5 years and didn't get a chance to see either williams or fitzgerald play. Was Fitz a gamebreakeror did he just have a nose for the endzone? How was he after the catch? Everything I hear about Williams makes me think he was talented but unreliable.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I've been serving overseas for the last 5 years and didn't get a chance to see either williams or fitzgerald play. Was Fitz a gamebreakeror did he just have a nose for the endzone? How was he after the catch? Everything I hear about Williams makes me think he was talented but unreliable.

I've seen a lot of Big East games (thats all they pretty much show in this area with ACC games) and Fitzgerald was pretty much the only reciever Pitt had, so that meant he was targeted with the play most of the time. He did seem to find a way most of the time to get up and catch the ball even when double covered, but like skinsncanes said in an earlier post, Fitzgerald played well except when against near-pro level talent like Miami.
I honestly never saw Williams have the dropsies like it's been said. All I know is that I always seemed to see him getting 7 to 8 catches a game. I think both guys have more than a good chance to be incredible recievers, but if I wanted the best reciever right now it'd be Williams.