Campbell will now stay away from Redskins Park

[Audi]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

While I haven't read your entire rant, you basically are defending the POS organization we had in order to just prove that Campbell was a bad QB?

Campbell was a bad QB as a result of a combination of his own faults as well as the terrible situation he was put by the front office of this team. Many QBs would have failed under the situations he was in and he didn't have enough talent to overcome them. Plain and simple. A Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees can overcome these things, not an average QB like Campbell.

If you want to feel good about yourself and kick the guy while he's down, feel free to do so. But don't come with this stupid argument that the Cerrato/Snyder regime gave him opportunities to win. The entire Cerrato/Snyder regime was a failure and please don't insult our intelligence by defending it just because you have a petty bias against one player.

The Cerrato/Snyder regime's failures culminated in one year and that's 2009.

Mark Brunell and Todd Collins are proof that you don't need Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees to overcome the "terrible situation" that Jason Campbell was placed in. Even Patrick Ramsey did better with worse.

Don't let your hate for Cerrato/Snyder blind you from Jason Campbell's shortcomings. The evidence is there.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Audi

The Cerrato/Snyder regime's failures culminated in one year and that's 2009.

Mark Brunell and Todd Collins are proof that you don't need Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees to overcome the "terrible situation" that Jason Campbell was placed in. Even Patrick Ramsey did better with worse.

Don't let your hate for Cerrato/Snyder blind you from Jason Campbell's shortcomings. The evidence is there.

I think you are letting your hate for Campbell blind you of the Cerrato/Snyder shortcomings. I am by no means blinded of Campbell's shortcomings, as a matter of fact, I see Campbell as a result of the terrible decisions made by Cerrato and Snyder.

Todd Collins played only in four games and then laid a turd during the playoffs and that was the end of him. Mark Brunell was an aging QB that was taking by Gibbs and was kept on as a starter for way too long. You call those two a success?

Once again, narrow minded people will dismiss the mistake that was the Cerrato/Snyder regime only to satisfy their petty bias of one player. Just stop your arguments, you're just embarrassing yourself.

If you want to point out Campbell mistakes, that's fine with me. No one here is saying he's a good QB. But don't pretend like he or any QB that has been on this team was under any good situation under the previous front office.

[Audi]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think you are letting your hate for Campbell blind you of the Cerrato/Snyder shortcomings. I am by no means blinded of Campbell's shortcomings, as a matter of fact, I see Campbell as a result of the terrible decisions made by Cerrato and Snyder.

Todd Collins played only in four games and then laid a turd during the playoffs and that was the end of him. Mark Brunell was an aging QB that was taking by Gibbs and was kept on as a starter for way too long. You call those two a success?

Once again, narrow minded people will dismiss the mistake that was the Cerrato/Snyder regime only to satisfy their petty bias of one player. Just stop your arguments, you're just embarrassing yourself.

I'm saying Mark Brunell and Todd Collins had success with a team that you claimed was impossible for any other quarterback besides Brees/Brady/Manning, and therefore it should not be held against Jason Campbell. Try reading my post more thoroughly, which you admitted to not doing, and also rereading your own posts to see what I'm replying to. I have quoted your post for easy reference.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Audi

I'm saying Mark Brunell and Todd Collins had success with a team that you claimed was impossible for any other quarterback besides Brees/Brady/Manning, and therefore it should not be held against Jason Campbell. Try reading my post more thoroughly, which you admitted to not doing, and also rereading your own posts to see what I'm replying to. I have quoted your post for easy reference.

I see what you are saying, but I feel that you are making a weak argument by saying that what Brunell and Todd Collins did would be consider a success. Burnell's Redskins were a marginal playoff team and Todd Collins got four good games and lost in the first round of the playoffs. Our team has been losing so much, that this small feat alone is considered success.

Bottom line, both the terrible decision maker that was the lowlight of the front office in the past 10 years is gone, and soon so will the mediocre QB that was a product of that terrible front office (along with the terrible decisions, terrible transactions, etc., etc.).

[Audi]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Bottom line, both the terrible decision maker that was the lowlight of the front office in the past 10 years is gone, and soon so will the mediocre QB that was a product of that terrible front office (along with the terrible decisions, terrible transactions, etc., etc.).

I agree, but to be honest I'm not completely sold on Mike Shanahan yet as a front office decision maker. I think we can both agree when we say that we'll both be happy when we start winning and achieve the ultimate success, which is a Super Bowl.