Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

There has been talk on ESPN that the Saints are talking to the Redskins about Big Al. I don't know about that. Even if they gave thier 2nd and 3rd would you do that trade being they are picking last in each round?

absolutely not. I'd send them Haynesworth and McIntosh for their 2nd, Bushrod, and a 5th rounder though (5th rounders are so trendy).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Oh, Carolina makes much more sense. Haynesworth , Kelly, and Campbell for the Panthers 2nd, 3rd, and a 2011 pick would be nice. They could conceivably help John Fox enough to help him keep his job beyond 2010.

Who said anything about Carolina? Kelly isn't really on the market. He was only in brief discussions for Marshall, but they're not shopping him around. Campbell isn't likely to get us more than a 6th at this point

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

There has been talk on ESPN that the Saints are talking to the Redskins about Big Al. I don't know about that. Even if they gave thier 2nd and 3rd would you do that trade being they are picking last in each round?

That would be like a 3rd and a 4th. Just say No!! unless Jaamal Brown is also included.

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by Buster

Wow, for a second and third...that's tempting.

The Saints D would be insane with him added to it.

yeah but towards the end of the round? I'd say a 2nd this year and a
2nd in 2011 would be better.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who said anything about Carolina? Kelly isn't really on the market. He was only in brief discussions for Marshall, but they're not shopping him around. Campbell isn't likely to get us more than a 6th at this point

Ok, so its not Carolina (they were the only 4-3 team picking around 8PM so that was my guess). I only mentioned Campbell and Kelly because Carolina also needs a WR and QB. Figured maybe we could package them all together and get something worthwhile. Glad to hear the Kelly talk isnt serious any more. I have high hopes for him.

[tootergray34]

gotta start stocking picks for next year and doing something we normally do...build through the draft.

[JLee9718]

Colt Brennan is better than Clausen, so we don't need to draft him. also, I would trade Haynesworth in a NY minute if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for him. But TN doesn't want him, so I doubt if we can get anything of value for him. WE're stuck with the 3 picks we have left.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

yeah but towards the end of the round? I'd say a 2nd this year and a
2nd in 2011 would be better.

I dont know if i'd want a future 2nd from the Saints. If we sent them Haynesworth, we'd only be making the best team in the NFL better in 2010... so the 2011 2nd rounder would probably be close to the bottom of the round. Add to that the devaluation of future picks, combined with the significantly weaker draft class in 2011 and the Saints 2010 3rd rounder has MUCH more value than their 2011 2nd.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

gotta start stocking picks for next year and doing something we normally do...build through the draft.

Is there going to be a next year?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

That would be like a 3rd and a 4th. Just say No!! unless Jaamal Brown is also included.

Keep in mind this is a very deep draft so it's possible that a late 3rd is more like a mid third and a late 4th in a mid 4th. Sort of like how the guys at the top of the 2nd round right now essentially have 1st round picks. I want to go on record now as saying that the Skins 4th round pick will be Montario Hardesty for two reasons. One he visited and two:

Vision/Patience -1 - Arguably greatest strength. Stays poised and does a good job of adjusting when defense gets good initial penetration. Patient and keeps head up so can locate another seam when the play is designed to go in a gap that doesn't open. Gets on the hip of lead blockers.

He does have durability problems though and there is a part of me that still thinks that 4th round pick will be a QB but we'll see.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Vikes still have Sage don't they?

Valid point. Forgot about him. I'm not sure he is their QB of the future either though??? I'd think of him more of a stop gap too. I mean, he worked out well in Washington didn't he?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um Kindle? What am I Smootstradamus?

Doesn't Miami have a top 8 tonight, and it's AFC East, and I would like to get one over on Bill Parcells, so I was hoping maybe we were doing something with them

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

yeah but towards the end of the round? I'd say a 2nd this year and a
2nd in 2011 would be better.

It's a deep draft, there are quality guys through the entire 3rd in my opinion.

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

Colt Brennan is better than Clausen, so we don't need to draft him. also, I would trade Haynesworth in a NY minute if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for him. But TN doesn't want him, so I doubt if we can get anything of value for him. WE're stuck with the 3 picks we have left.

colt brennan > clausen? really?

[RedskinPete]

There is a up date on that Saints would part with Patrick Robinson[thier 1st round pick] and a 2nd or 3rd for big Al. I know this could be made up stuff but ESPN said there is some kind of talks going on between the Skins and Saints!