Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Doesn't Miami have a top 8 tonight, and it's AFC East, and I would like to get one over on Bill Parcells, so I was hoping maybe we were doing something with them

Haha....no

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Haha....no

You always get the bad end of Big Bill!

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Haha....no

Maybe we could trade for CJ Spiller. Then draft Jevan Snead in the 4th and John Skelton in the 5th.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I disagree.

The Vikes have given TJ a shot and he did not keep the job. That's why they got Favre. I don't see him being a solution for a long term starter at QB in the eyes of the Vikings. Drafting Clausen #34 and giving him a year behind Favre and then turning it over to him with an already well established offense would be an ideal situation for them IMO.

I think the Browns signed Jake Delhome as a very temporary stop gap. It seems the best plan would be to draft a QB in this draft. Let me learn behind Jake for a season, or half a season if he falters early on, and then turn it over. I would feel much safer with Campbell as an option than Delhome.

The Panthers got rid of Delhome because he sucks, not b/c they have sooo much confidence in Moore IMO. I would feel safer about having Moore and Campbell instead of Moore by himself, who is an unproven players with the exception of a few good starts in relief.

I feel like there is a good enough market to move Campbell. I feel it would be best for him and the Redskins. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later in the 2nd round. HTTR.

1. TJ did not lose his job, the Vikings upgraded the position. Once HOF legend Favre finally retires it is TJ's team again.

2. My definition of stop gap is different from yours. I believe that stop gap is a one year thing. I believe that Delhome has solidified the QB position in Cleveland for possibly 2-4 years.

3. Delhome does not necessarily suck, he had a bad year and got hurt in the middle of it. If he sucked then the Panthers would not have given him that fat contract right before last season. The Panthers obviously believe that based on performance that Moore has the potential to be as good as Delhome. Given that he is younger, cheaper, and the fact that it is an uncapped year it just made sense to release Delhome without a penalty.

4. There is a market to move Campbell but we would have to accept far less than what he is really worth. In my mind he is worth a late 3rd or early to mid 4th. Right now the market is trying to dictate more like a late 4th early 5th.

[freddyg12]

I wondered if the Saints would be interested in AH. Along w/Grilliams' former players Rocky & Landry, I thought they might enter into discussions for AH.

A fair & mutually beneficial deal would be; J. Brown for AH, NO pays us half of the 21 mil that we paid AH, and we in turn sign J. Brown to a contract extension. Both teams would essentially be re-signing the other's vet player.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I wondered if the Saints would be interested in AH. Along w/Grilliams' former players Rocky & Landry, I thought they might enter into discussions for AH.

A fair & mutually beneficial deal would be; J. Brown for AH, NO pays us half of the 21 mil that we paid AH, and we in turn sign J. Brown to a contract extension. Both teams would essentially be re-signing the other's vet player.

The only place Haynesworth is going is to the Dallas backfield in week 1.

On as side note, I am going to go King Kong on New York if I see this quote posted by Matt Mosley for Haynesworth rumors on ESPN Insider:

Matt Mosley
I could still see this happening
"For the record, I still think the Redskins would entertain offers for Haynesworth. I sat at a breakfast table with Mike Shanahan at the owners meeting and heard the tone in his voice when he discussed Haynesworth's decision to skip the offseason conditioning program. He feels like Haynesworth has already defied him in front of the team, and that's part of why he's already tried to trade him at least once."

New spin on the same rehashed story, same freaking quote.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I wondered if the Saints would be interested in AH. Along w/Grilliams' former players Rocky & Landry, I thought they might enter into discussions for AH.

A fair & mutually beneficial deal would be; J. Brown for AH, NO pays us half of the 21 mil that we paid AH, and we in turn sign J. Brown to a contract extension. Both teams would essentially be re-signing the other's vet player.

Jamaal Brown would be our other Tackle that we need! To get a pick with him would allow us to go after another LB or FS. That would be worth it, but Haynesworth is a big loss.

[Dirtbag59]

Lets just keep our players. Landry, Haynesworth, and McIntosh should all have productive season this year. Campbell is the only one we should be looking to trade.

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Lets just keep our players. Landry, Haynesworth, and McIntosh should all have productive season this year. Campbell is the only one we should be looking to trade.

If we did what you suggest then we are the Skins of old!!

If they f--- Up then they are out...if you act up your out... if you don't play well your out!

The new admin expects nothing less... This is the one thing that past admins have not done even when they wanted...including Gibbs! That is why I am optimistic of the future!

I think AH is a beast but he is acting up...bye!!!

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Angry

1. TJ did not lose his job, the Vikings upgraded the position. Once HOF legend Favre finally retires it is TJ's team again.

2. My definition of stop gap is different from yours. I believe that stop gap is a one year thing. I believe that Delhome has solidified the QB position in Cleveland for possibly 2-4 years.

3. Delhome does not necessarily suck, he had a bad year and got hurt in the middle of it. If he sucked then the Panthers would not have given him that fat contract right before last season. The Panthers obviously believe that based on performance that Moore has the potential to be as good as Delhome. Given that he is younger, cheaper, and the fact that it is an uncapped year it just made sense to release Delhome without a penalty.

4. There is a market to move Campbell but we would have to accept far less than what he is really worth. In my mind he is worth a late 3rd or early to mid 4th. Right now the market is trying to dictate more like a late 4th early 5th.

I agree with some of what you said but I also think he is worth more than a late 3rd to mid 4th. If McCoy and Clausen go in round 2 early enough then any other team in the draft that needs a QB would be much better off trading for Campbell. He would be better than any other QB left in the draft. The Skins don't have to trade him. They can keep him as the back up. So if teams want him I can see giving up a late 2nd or 3rd for him.

[freddyg12]

Let's also keep in mind that the trading market for JC might be better during camp or early in the season. If we only get a late round pick for him, it might be worth the chance we take to hold onto him & see what happens as the season is underway. One injury could make a team desperate.

Also, if the new cba includes comp. picks then we could get a good one if JC leaves as an UFA after next year & starts somewhere.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The only place Haynesworth is going is to the Dallas backfield in week 1.

On as side note, I am going to go King Kong on New York if I see this quote posted by Matt Mosley for Haynesworth rumors on ESPN Insider:

New spin on the same rehashed story, same freaking quote.

I don't know who/what to believe on the Haynesworth front, but it would seem pretty realistic to me that Shanny would rather have J. Brown then AH, all things being equal.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 2BIG2BSKINNY

If we did what you suggest then we are the Skins of old!!

If they f--- Up then they are out...if you act up your out... if you don't play well your out!

The new admin expects nothing less... This is the one thing that past admins have not done even when they wanted...including Gibbs! That is why I am optimistic of the future!

What are we going to get in exchange for 3 veterans that have at one point or another shown they can produce? Maybe a 5th or a 6th round pick. Thats not worth it just for the sake of being with the cool kids collecting picks. Having draft picks is nice but it's not like the ones we've traded for this year have been wasted.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by Buster

Jamaal Brown would be our other Tackle that we need! To get a pick with him would allow us to go after another LB or FS. That would be worth it, but Haynesworth is a big loss.

There is also talk that the Vikings,Saints and Redskins are talking about a trade with big Al. Vikings like the CB that the Saints picked Robinson last night. OT Brown would come to the Skins and picks from both the Saints and Vikings would come Washingtons way. Seems like a lot to happen but who knows. Never thought McNabb would be a Redskins eaither!

[RedskinPete]

Something eles out there is it being reported out here on the left coast on KNBR that the Raiders would like to trade LB K.Morrison and the Redskins are in talks. J.Campbell has also be in the talks as well...Is Morrison a good fit for the Redskins? Would you make that trade JC for KM?