WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Start the negotiations......NOW. Get this POS outta here.

Report: Haynesworth May Be Willing To Return Some Of His Signing Bonus - SB Nation DC

Finally, some positive news about Al.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Buster

Finally, some positive news about Al.

"F--k no!" May be willing to return some of his signing bonus, he either buys out his contract (how ever much that may be) or he rides the bench till he decides to play ball and learn the defensive scheme. The whole time getting fined for not showing up.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by Buster

Finally, some positive news about Al.

Would the union permit the return of the signing bonus portion?

[over the mountain]

If its not about the money and about the 3-4 (which it isnt, its about the money), AH should just see if the skins will accelerate his player opt out option which would allow him to become a FA.

of course, he would have to give back 18+ mil of that 21 mil bonus. But if its not about money, this should have happened already.

We do not get a comp pick if AH opts out of his contract or is released. Only if a player plays out his contract and becomes a FA do comp picks get awarded.

[SmootSmack]

Fletcher blasted AH today

[#56fanatic]

I wouldn't trade him at all. If the fat ass wants to sit home, then let him. He is in breach of his contract, not the Redskins. For everyday he sits home and doesn't come in, then fine him. These idiots dont care about anything but money, and if the fines keep adding up to where it puts a dent in the wallet, then they will show up. And when he shows up, and is deamed to act in a way detrimental to the team then we can fine him and send him home again. These NFL teams, execs, and owners need to start standing up to these f-ers instead of giving in and trading them or cutting them. This guy has taken $30+ million dollars from Danny, i'll be damn if he would be wearing any uniform other than the Redskins. I use to side with some players when they got in to these situations, but not this one. The idiot hasn't even come in to see what he would be doing. He is ASSUMING he'll have a certain role. From reports I have read, Kemo will play nose and he'll play end, which if I am correct, has some more freedom to be aggressive. We have enough talented lineman on the roster to play with out him. I would send a message to him and his agent that he isnt' getting traded, he isn't getting cut and he'll be fined to the max everyday until he shows up. And if he shows up disrupting the team, then he'll be sent home with actions detrimental to the team, and fined and not paid at all for the remainder of his contract.

[Gmanc711]

WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

Wow, Fat Al is more of a problem than I thought...obviously there has been a problem in the past and he's a problem child in the looker room. I would do whatever it takes to get the money back and trade Fat Al ASAP. I don't want his ass back.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

WOOOOOOOOW.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

...

"I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

In the past, I have been an AH defender. Although I thought the money obscene, I figured - "Hey its Snyder's money and it's isn't draft picks." Also, I thought he improved the overall defense last year as it appeared that Carter benefitted from his presence.

No more. Fletcher's quote makes it clear what the rest of the defense thought of him. Clearly, this guy is not about anything other than himself. On the defensive side of the ball, for success, it really takes all 11 to be on the same page.

I'm sure we have all met the type, the guy who is so convinced of his talent that he simply can't operate as part of team b/c they are absolutely unwilling to do work they consider "below them."

Essentially, AH is simply a less flamboyant, somewhat less stupid and somewhat more articulate LaVar.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

A while back I said this guy isn't a good teammate and now we see why. When a stand up quality guy like Fletch calls you out then you know it's bad. It's all about him and we now see that he is just not someone that we can count on. I'd honestly let his fat sloppy bacon grease ass rot on the bench.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

Go Fletcher.

[saden1]

OK, if that's how this bozo want's to play let's play. If he can find somewhere to go and a 20 million dollar check he should be set free, otherwise his ass is either at Redskin Park or at home.

[SmootSmack]

I actually don't think it would be that difficult to just cut him, from a financial perspective, though I don't know for sure.

But I don't see them cutting him

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I actually don't think it would be that difficult to just cut him, from a financial perspective, though I don't know for sure.

But I don't see them cutting him

At this time, with what has gone on today and now with the circus that is surely to ensue are we now officially shopping Phat Albert? Anyword from your sources SS?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

At this time, with what has gone on today and now with the circus that is surely to ensue are we now officially shopping Phat Albert? Anyword from your sources SS?

As of this morning, I still haven't heard that we are trying to move him. But I've been kind of busy with other stuff so I really haven't had a chance to focus on this much