I Apologize

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

So instead of being amazingly stupid (W), it's cool to just be really stupid (Obama), and that's ok? Gotcha.

I have no problem with spending...especially in a depressed economy. There are things I would like to cut but I don't think you'd like what I would cut. The biggest mistake Obama has made IMO is not leaving the wars to save some $$$...everything else I'm fine with.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have no problem with spending...especially in a depressed economy. There are things I would like to cut but I don't think you'd like what I would cut. The biggest mistake Obama has made IMO is not leaving the wars to save some $$$...everything else I'm fine with.

Yes, but don't you think he's apologized enough for America so far? After all we've done in Iraq and Afghanistan, you suggest that he just cut bait and haul ass? Even though he may not have entered those wars if it had been his decision, there is still an obligation to something we as a country started nearly 10 years ago (crazy it's been that long already).

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for our troops to come home, but in the international diplomatic eye, is it really viable to just bail out of both countries right now?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yes, but don't you think he's apologized enough for America so far? After all we've done in Iraq and Afghanistan, you suggest that he just cut bait and haul ass? Even though he may not have entered those wars if it had been his decision, there is still an obligation to something we as a country started nearly 10 years ago (crazy it's been that long already).

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for our troops to come home, but in the international diplomatic eye, is it really viable to just bail out of both countries right now?

As far as cuts go I'd start with cutting defense spending by re-evaluate DoD contracts and projects and returning all troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan.

There is no right time to bailout, they will always something they'll need our help. In international diplomatic eyes I am sure they'll understand...like your co-workers understanding you're leaving the company for another company that pays you better. Besides, these countries need to step-up and start solving world security issues instead of relying on us.

If we don't leave we will be saying the same fucking thing 20 years from now. Plus you have to ask yourself if US presence is fueling the fighting.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

As far as cuts go I'd start with cutting defense spending by re-evaluate DoD contracts

While we're at it we need to complete a Fed-wide evaluation on contracts and projects

and returning all troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan.

There is no right time to bailout, they will always something they'll need our help. In international diplomatic eyes I am sure they'll understand...like your co-workers understanding you're leaving the company for another company that pays you better. Besides, these countries need to step-up and start solving world security issues instead of relying on us.

If we don't leave we will be saying the same fucking thing 20 years from now. Plus you have to ask yourself if US presence is fueling the fighting.

I agree with you on getting our troops home. We need a Special Ops presence but our regular troops need to come home and get the targets off their backs. I'm a LeMay Doctrine guy, if we're committing troops it ain't as peace-keepers with ridiculous rules of engagement.