D-Line help without trading down

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

I pretty much agree with your assesment joe except there was also Cartwright (7th round), but I think that was more Marty's pick if I remember correctly.

No, Cartwright was a Spurrier/Cerrato pick.

And now, dammit, stop pointing out flaws in my carefully thought out, fully analyzed, and wonderfully articulated theories. Pretend I am Dan Snyder and you are Terry Robiskie - Just nod and agree with me.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No, Cartwright was a Spurrier/Cerrato pick.

And now, dammit, stop pointing out flaws in my carefully thought out, fully analyzed, and wonderfully articulated theories. Pretend I am Dan Snyder and you are Terry Robiskie - Just nod and agree with me.

lol, sorry for bursting your bubble. I also forgot Mccants. :thumb:

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

I also forgot Mccants.

Now you're really pissing me off!!! That is not nodding and agreeing!!! LOL

[skinsfanthru&thru]

:FIREdevil MUUUUHAAHAAHAA, *clears throat* sorry, I enjoy being the devils advocate sometimes. the rest of what you said is true though and those r the only rare cases I know of unless Robert Royal stays healthy and plays well this year.

[SkinsRock]

McCants, Ohalete, Brian Johnson were all late picks/undrafted, but I believe they were all Marty picks, so Joe has a point.
All I can think of for Cerrato is Cartright, but consider that we haven't had as many late picks the past couple years, plus everyone wants to give all the top players a year under a REAL NFL coach to prove what they can do, so the same should be said for the "no-names" barely on the roster and on the practice squad.
It's the coaches that take the 80 or so players in training camp and decide who is worthy of keeping on the roster, not the FO. If and when Gibbs and company recognize hidden talent and potential, they will bring it out. Are the Patriots scouts really THAT much better then the rest of the league? I think not...a lot of it is coaching.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by SkinsRock

McCants, Ohalete, Brian Johnson were all late picks/undrafted, but I believe they were all Marty picks, so Joe has a point.
All I can think of for Cerrato is Cartright, but consider that we haven't had as many late picks the past couple years, plus everyone wants to give all the top players a year under a REAL NFL coach to prove what they can do, so the same should be said for the "no-names" barely on the roster and on the practice squad.
It's the coaches that take the 80 or so players in training camp and decide who is worthy of keeping on the roster, not the FO. If and when Gibbs and company recognize hidden talent and potential, they will bring it out. Are the Patriots scouts really THAT much better then the rest of the league? I think not...a lot of it is coaching.

McCants was a draft pick during the first year of Spurriers stay, Ohalete was a free agent pick up, and Johnson was an undrafted rookie free agent and I think your right that Johnson and Ohalete were Marty pick ups but Cerrato was here when Marty was. and I agree that the PAtriots r the perfect example of a team choosing the right players that will fit within the team's scheme.

[SkinsRock]

Not to argue, but McCants was a 5th rounder in 2001 (the Schotty year), but he spent his whole first season on the practice squad.

He went to my high school (granted, many years later than me!), so I have tried to keep up on him, and have been pulling for him ever since he was picked by the Skins...

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by SkinsRock

Not to argue, but McCants was a 5th rounder in 2001 (the Schotty year), but he spent his whole first season on the practice squad.

He went to my high school (granted, many years later than me!), so I have tried to keep up on him, and have been pulling for him ever since he was picked by the Skins...

my bad, you're right, but that still means he was drafted during Cerrato's stay unless that was the year he took off cuz I remember cerrato working for espn for a little bit in between employment under Snyder.