The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think Andre Carter is a 3-4 outside backer? Nope. Yet he's one of our best pass rushers. Where has he been? Is Haynesworth a nose tackle? Nope. Is Rocky an inside backer? No. Where is Chris Wilson? Do we even have a true nose tackle? No. Are Hall and Rogers zone corners? No. So yes it's very early but there are just too many indications that this is going to be a crappy defense cause guys seem to be out of position.

If Carter, Haynesworth and Rocky can't learn a new position, a few feet from their previous (which is an oversimplification I know), then they can GTFO. I don't want a bunch of dumbasses out there who play like retards if you dare ask them to stand up, or move inside a bit, or play 0-technique.

But I don't think they're a bunch of retards -- they probably can play those positions. Time will tell.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

If Carter, Haynesworth and Rocky can't learn a new position, a few feet from their previous (which is an oversimplification I know), then they can GTFO. I don't want a bunch of dumbasses out there who play like retards if you dare ask them to stand up, or move inside a bit, or play 0-technique.

But I don't think they're a bunch of retards -- they probably can play those positions. Time will tell.

Well Landry never truly learned to play FS, and is doing much better as a SS. And one of the reasons Carter came to Washington was because he wasn't successful as a 3-4 LB when SF changed to that scheme. I think versatility is great, but at the same time you need players that are good at their positions in certain schemes. And save for maybe Orakpo, the rest of our front seven are learning their positions.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well Landry never truly learned to play FS, and is doing much better as a SS. And one of the reasons Carter came to Washington was because he wasn't successful as a 3-4 LB when SF changed to that scheme. I think versatility is great, but at the same time you need players that are good at their positions in certain schemes. And save for maybe Orakpo, the rest of our front seven are learning their positions.

I think it's safe to say this defensive coaching staff has for whatever reason, chose to ignore the obvious. The entire front seven of this defense is playing out of position. It has caused many to wonder why the mad-rush to switch to a 3-4 defense in the first place. Save for turnovers, defense was not this teams biggest problem.

It was suggested the move was made with the idea in mind of getting more turnovers...being more aggressive.....despite the aggressivness, good teams do not turn the ball over, that's why they're good, They don't beat themselves.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

If Carter, Haynesworth and Rocky can't learn a new position, a few feet from their previous (which is an oversimplification I know), then they can GTFO. I don't want a bunch of dumbasses out there who play like retards if you dare ask them to stand up, or move inside a bit, or play 0-technique.

But I don't think they're a bunch of retards -- they probably can play those positions. Time will tell.

You know it's just not that simple. If you have guys that play a 4-3 better and fit that scheme better than why change it? It's about doing what you do best. As I mentioned before, you don't see Pittsburgh changing their defense around when they hired a new coach. It has nothing to do with being dumb.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You know it's just not that simple. If you have guys that play a 4-3 better and fit that scheme better than why change it? It's about doing what you do best. As I mentioned before, you don't see Pittsburgh changing their defense around when they hired a new coach. It has nothing to do with being dumb.

Using that logic nobody would ever make any scheme changes. Change is difficult and it's not always going to be a perfect fit initially.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

As I mentioned before, you don't see Pittsburgh changing their defense around when they hired a new coach. It has nothing to do with being dumb.

To be fair, LeBeau has been the defensive coordinator since 2004. Of course they aren't going to change a defense in 2007 that's been superior. And before LeBeau, the Steelers ran a 3-4 with Cowher. That comparsion really doesn't hold water because the situation isn't the same...

The fact that Shanahan wanted to run a 3-4 is the reason he hired Haslett in the first place. That's why the scheme has changed. The Skins have the personnel to run the 3-4 successfully. It's a matter of execution and the coaches making proper adjustments, which they have not done successfully in the 1st 3 games.