DT now a Panther

[diehard]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Is it some kind of...well kept secret how much we need a legit #1 reciever? Anybody think the Shanahan's, the other 48 coaches, scouts and front office people are unaware of this?
If DT had shown any sense over the last 3 years of being a reliable, hard working, producing starter, anybody really think he would not be starting....now?

This is the thing. When you watch other teams toying around with the likes of James Jones and Jordy Nelson you wonder if a player is just not being utilized.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by diehard

This is the thing. When you watch other teams toying around with the likes of James Jones and Jordy Nelson you wonder if a player is just not being utilized.

I wonder the same thing, but with DT...how many years does he get? I mean we have done this and done this with players with HUGE deals that never come to fruition. I REALLY liked DT and was excited when they drafted him. Damn disappointed he didn't work out.
That is why a guy like Shanny is SO damn valuable. I would keep the bastard forever hoping he would get it. I don't think emotion is part of the equation for MS. AND it should not be or?????? YOU have the Redskins roster problems.
AND finally it is....ridiculous that I as a fan, (even if I was an exceptionally astute fan) am qualified in ANY way to make those decisions.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I wonder the same thing, but with DT...how many years does he get? I mean we have done this and done this with players with HUGE deals that never come to fruition. I REALLY liked DT and was excited when they drafted him. Damn disappointed he didn't work out.
That is why a guy like Shanny is SO damn valuable. I would keep the bastard forever hoping he would get it. I don't think emotion is part of the equation for MS. AND it should not be or?????? YOU have the Redskins roster problems.
AND finally it is....ridiculous that I as a fan, (even if I was an exceptionally astute fan) am qualified in ANY way to make those decisions.

I think I would have the same problem. I will say though with DT, I felt it was either the position coach Hixon or DT himself. We bring in a whole new position coach (that alot of people were happy to have), new HC, and new scheme, DT still didn't pan out. So basically I gave up on him when he was moved up the roster. Clearly he's doing something wrong.

But Gibbs was the same way he would label players starters and there was no challenging for the roster spot it seemed. Loyal to the end I guess. This new coaching staff is impressing me all the time. You either perform or your gone. There is little time to wait for a player to "get it."

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think I would have the same problem. I will say though with DT, I felt it was either the position coach Hixon or DT himself. We bring in a whole new position coach (that alot of people were happy to have), new HC, and new scheme, DT still didn't pan out. So basically I gave up on him when he was moved up the roster. Clearly he's doing something wrong.

But Gibbs was the same way he would label players starters and there was no challenging for the roster spot it seemed. Loyal to the end I guess. This new coaching staff is impressing me all the time. You either perform or your gone. There is little time to wait for a player to "get it."

Well, Joe2 during his tenure help us regain some respect, putting us in the road to recovery, provided much needed leadership, etc. BUT Joe2......was a shadow of Joe1. He, Casserly, and Bethard were unequaled in player aquisition

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Well, Joe2 during his tenure help us regain some respect, putting us in the road to recovery, provided much needed leadership, etc. BUT Joe2......was a shadow of Joe1. He, Casserly, and Bethard were unequaled in player aquisition

Joe2 really didn't do much. Yeah 2 playoff appearances, but we got smoked in those. His drafts were horrible for the most part. Some nice hits like Cooley, and later Rogers, but misses mostly. I still don't understand his last draft or was it his next to last draft where he got 3 RBs when we were set with CP Betts and Rock, and we sorely needed new linemen.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Well, Joe2 during his tenure help us regain some respect, putting us in the road to recovery, provided much needed leadership, etc. BUT Joe2......was a shadow of Joe1. He, Casserly, and Bethard were unequaled in player aquisition

I don't think people realize how many misses Gibbs 1 had with player acquisitions. They just gave themselves a lot more opportunities which allows you the luxury of more mistakes. Just like what the Pats do

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think people realize how many misses Gibbs 1 had with player acquisitions. They just gave themselves a lot more opportunities which allows you the luxury of more mistakes. Just like what the Pats do

Desmond Howard, Jamie Morris?

Ahhh....what could have been if Timmy Smith had remained clean and sober!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think people realize how many misses Gibbs 1 had with player acquisitions. They just gave themselves a lot more opportunities which allows you the luxury of more mistakes. Just like what the Pats do

I.......don't

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I.......don't

Bob Slater, Tory Nixon, Walter Murray, Wally Kleine, Raphel Cherry, Carl Powell, Andre Johnson (granted he was post Gibbs 1 but during Casserly)...