NFL Might Suspend Players for Violent Hits

[aceinthehouse]

BTW...
Merriweather who had the head-to-head hit on heap where he actually was trying to hurt him and was flagged for it and knocked heap out of the game was fined $50,000.

Harrison who knocked out Cribbs in a legal and non-flagged devastating hit was fined $75,000
Nobody has been suspended at the moment.

You guys still love their interpretation now?
Told ya..

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

BTW...
Merriweather who had the head-to-head hit on heap where he actually was trying to hurt him and was flagged for it and knocked heap out of the game was fined $50,000.

That's not even correct.

Meriweather hit on Heap

If you watch that, Meriweather commits to that hit before Mayo hits Heap. Heap moves to Meriweather's left and his head comes down. That's the only reason that ends up being helmet to helmet. I think the intent on Meriweather's part was to put his shoulder/helmet somewhere around Heap's chest/ribs, but the hit from Mayo altered Heap and it ends up being helmet to helmet.

I, personally, don't like the rule because of hits like this. I think Meriweather was going to try to land a kill shot, but it ended up being infinitely worse than he intended because another player hit him a split-second earlier. That's not enough to adjust. Having the advantage of seeing things in super slow mo isn't anything these players can do. The game moves too fast for the NFL to suspend guys for hits like this.

I've honestly watched most of the big hits from this weekend (the 2 by Harrison, the Meriweather one, and the Robinson one) and I can make a case that they all could have been legal hits if not for split second events that made them look bad. Personally, I don't even believe the Robinson hit was at all dirty. His head ricochets into the helmet area of Jackson, but he initially buries it in his shoulder.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by jdlea

That's not even correct.

Meriweather hit on Heap

If you watch that, Meriweather commits to that hit before Mayo hits Heap. Heap moves to Meriweather's left and his head comes down. That's the only reason that ends up being helmet to helmet. I think the intent on Meriweather's part was to put his shoulder/helmet somewhere around Heap's chest/ribs, but the hit from Mayo altered Heap and it ends up being helmet to helmet.

I, personally, don't like the rule because of hits like this. I think Meriweather was going to try to land a kill shot, but it ended up being infinitely worse than he intended because another player hit him a split-second earlier. That's not enough to adjust. Having the advantage of seeing things in super slow mo isn't anything these players can do. The game moves too fast for the NFL to suspend guys for hits like this.

I've honestly watched most of the big hits from this weekend (the 2 by Harrison, the Meriweather one, and the Robinson one) and I can make a case that they all could have been legal hits if not for split second events that made them look bad. Personally, I don't even believe the Robinson hit was at all dirty. His head ricochets into the helmet area of Jackson, but he initially buries it in his shoulder.

Meriweather's hit is what they should flag because how he launched himself up towards Heaps head and lowered his head.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Meriweather's hit is what they should flag because how he launched himself up towards Heaps head and lowered his head.

I'm aware of that, but I don't think they would have flagged it had he not made contact with Heap's head

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Meriweather's hit is what they should flag because how he launched himself up towards Heaps head and lowered his head.

yeah it is my understanding that you can not lead/launch leading with your helmet to a defenseless player. once a player establishes himself as a runner, hes fair game.

also, reading the exact words of another rule regarding the helmet to helmet hits, it doesnt matter if you hit a guy with your helmet in his chest initially, if your helmet then rides up and hits him in his helmet . . its helmet to helmet.

the merriweather hit was one that i think squarely falls into an illegal hit on 2 levels. it was helmet to helmet and he launched himself leading with his helmet into a defenseless receiver.

weve seen consussions happen on all types of hits. dallas clark got that concussion from a wrap up type tackle but his head did the slightest whiplash thing into the ground. that was a routine tackle in the nfl, clark still got concused. we cant even point nor can the skins coaching staff point to the hit that gave cooley a concussion.

also, i think the rise in reported concussions is def an attribute of team doctors become more aware of the signs of concussion as well as push to immediately pull players out and have them evaluated teh second a concussion is suspected.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by jdlea

That's not even correct.

Meriweather hit on Heap

If you watch that, Meriweather commits to that hit before Mayo hits Heap. Heap moves to Meriweather's left and his head comes down. That's the only reason that ends up being helmet to helmet. I think the intent on Meriweather's part was to put his shoulder/helmet somewhere around Heap's chest/ribs, but the hit from Mayo altered Heap and it ends up being helmet to helmet.

I, personally, don't like the rule because of hits like this. I think Meriweather was going to try to land a kill shot, but it ended up being infinitely worse than he intended because another player hit him a split-second earlier. That's not enough to adjust. Having the advantage of seeing things in super slow mo isn't anything these players can do. The game moves too fast for the NFL to suspend guys for hits like this.

I've honestly watched most of the big hits from this weekend (the 2 by Harrison, the Meriweather one, and the Robinson one) and I can make a case that they all could have been legal hits if not for split second events that made them look bad. Personally, I don't even believe the Robinson hit was at all dirty. His head ricochets into the helmet area of Jackson, but he initially buries it in his shoulder.

Honestly I watched the video and thought it was not as bad as it ended up. Yeah it's helmet to helmet but I'm confused as to how the WR ended up with a concussion because it really didn't look like the hit was that hard. Helmets tap and WR goes to the ground.

Now look at the Desean Jackson hit. That to me was vicious but it looked like the shoulder hit not the helmet.

I think it goes back to this... if the players don't want to subject themselves to these type of hits they would get out of football and use their college degree. I find it funny that it's the NFL and who knows congress? that are trying to change the rules but the players themselves and owners are not. I have yet to hear a player get on tv and say we need to change the rules, or something needs to be done. All I keep hearing is "hey it's football, thats what we signed up for it could happen to any one of us."

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Honestly I watched the video and thought it was not as bad as it ended up. Yeah it's helmet to helmet but I'm confused as to how the WR ended up with a concussion because it really didn't look like the hit was that hard. Helmets tap and WR goes to the ground.

Now look at the Desean Jackson hit. That to me was vicious but it looked like the shoulder hit not the helmet.

I think it goes back to this... if the players don't want to subject themselves to these type of hits they would get out of football and use their college degree. I find it funny that it's the NFL and who knows congress? that are trying to change the rules but the players themselves and owners are not. I have yet to hear a player get on tv and say we need to change the rules, or something needs to be done. All I keep hearing is "hey it's football, thats what we signed up for it could happen to any one of us."

You don't even need to get hit in the head to suffer a concussion. The violent whiplash motion of a big hit is enough to jar the brain against the inside of the skull.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

BTW...
Merriweather who had the head-to-head hit on heap where he actually was trying to hurt him and was flagged for it and knocked heap out of the game was fined $50,000.

Harrison who knocked out Cribbs in a legal and non-flagged devastating hit was fined $75,000
Nobody has been suspended at the moment.

You guys still love their interpretation now?
Told ya..

I agree and not sure how they can call the Harrison hit illegal as the players had become a runner and you can tackle them with your head.