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Old 10-28-2010, 04:55 PM   #1
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

One thing left out/overlooked in the whole AH/Shanahan dramedy.

Anyone, anywhere, see Snyder's name mentioned as trying to influence the outcome?

Anyone believe, prior to this year and w/ the exception of Gibbs' tenure, that Snyder would have been a non-factor in the resolution of the issue?
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:18 PM   #2
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

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One thing left out/overlooked in the whole AH/Shanahan dramedy.

Anyone, anywhere, see Snyder's name mentioned as trying to influence the outcome?

Anyone believe, prior to this year and w/ the exception of Gibbs' tenure, that Snyder would have been a non-factor in the resolution of the issue?
His name has not been out front, probably by design, but I'm not throughly convinced there was no influence [to a lesser degree] on his part. Too much money involved for there not to be.
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

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One thing left out/overlooked in the whole AH/Shanahan dramedy.

Anyone, anywhere, see Snyder's name mentioned as trying to influence the outcome?

Anyone believe, prior to this year and w/ the exception of Gibbs' tenure, that Snyder would have been a non-factor in the resolution of the issue?
he has a really good new pr guy this year, and he is making strides but one season doesn't make a decade dissapear overnight, hopefully we are on the right track now, we as a fan base deserve it, although we bitch and moan about every detail we still show up every sunday

it's nice to hear some good news about albert though, after watching him carry that lineman into cutler you could finally see what he is capable of. i really hope he pulls his s together and finsihes the season strong and finds his place on this team.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:56 PM   #4
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

Winning cures everything. The guy had a good game against a shitty O-line. I want to see him do it this week and the week after.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:51 PM   #5
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

This simply means that there has been a separate peace reached for this year--Shanahan (via Haslett's prodding) and AH have settled on AH being a situational lineman. I think it makes it all the more likely that the two camps will try to find a way to divorce at the end of the season, because neither party is going to want this next year.
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

Last night on the NFL show on Showtime, Mike Lombardi was saying that the Redskins were lucky to have scored the TD by DeAngelo Hall, instead of getting flagged for a personal foul on Haynesworth's downhill block.

Redskins Insider - Shanahan says he would defend Haynesworth block to NFL
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

That was so great when he took the guard to the QB!!
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:01 PM   #8
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

I love how people will try to spin this as a negative.

So pessimistic sometimes.
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It's real clear to me that that SOB doesn't want to try and with his loser talk of "I can't" or "I can only play nickel" he pretty much said as much. The mark of a great player is the ability to adapt and they don't have the words "I can't" in their vocabulary. Again, fck him...I hope he chokes on a hot dog.
As shown in the link, even Sapp had trouble adjusting to not NT, RE. NT is even more demanding the RE. So it seems that Haynesworth is not the only one suffering from such a inability to be beastly when taken out of the 3-4.
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

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Posted at 9:19 PM ET, 10/28/2010

Albert Haynesworth fined $7,500 for hit vs. Bears, report says

The NFL has fined Albert Haynesworth $7,500 for a hit the Redskins defensive lineman delivered during DeAngelo Hall's 92-yard interception return last Sunday at Chicago, according to an ESPN report.

Haynesworth was penalized by the league office Thursday for unnecessary roughness on a block of Bears offensive lineman J'Marcus Webb, which occured about 11 yards behind Hall as the cornerback streaked down the sideline.

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said he hadn't seen a review of the hit from the television broadcast, but he commended Haynesworth for his effort on the play.

"If a guy's 25 yards back, and a guy kills somebody, they say, 'Hey, that's a cheap shot,' " Shanahan said Thursday. "If he's got a chance to catch him -- if he's within 10 yards, maybe it's 12 yards --, they determine if he had a legitimate chance to make a play."

Haynesworth's block did not draw a flag on the play. However, Webb was not happy with the hit because his reaction on the field drew an 15-yard personal foul.

Shanahan said he might discuss the hit with league office.
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

That SOB is 6-6 and 335lbs. Don't anybody fcking dare tell me he can't play nose tackle. He can play it, and be the best at it...he just doesn't want to. What puzzles me even more is the fact that he doesn't want to get double teamed as NT but as a DT he almost always gets double teamed. He is one of the most selfish player in the game...he could have been a hall of famer.
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That SOB is 6-6 and 335lbs. Don't anybody fcking dare tell me he can't play nose tackle. He can play it, and be the best at it...he just doesn't want to. What puzzles me even more is the fact that he doesn't want to get double teamed as NT but as a DT he almost always gets double teamed. He is one of the most selfish player in the game...he could have been a hall of famer.
I don't think it's a stretch to say a player isn't cut out for a certain position and/or scheme.

And if he was truly the most selfish player in the game, wouldn't he be demanding to be the starter? A guy that's willing to help the team and admit he's not the best choice for a position doesn't strike me as selfish.

Of course it may have helped if he was here for all the offseason work, but for now this is a pretty good solution for both sides as he continues to get up to speed at the nose.
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I don't think it's a stretch to say a player isn't cut out for a certain position and/or scheme.

And if he was truly the most selfish player in the game, wouldn't he be demanding to be the starter? A guy that's willing to help the team and admit he's not the best choice for a position doesn't strike me as selfish.

Of course it may have helped if he was here for all the offseason work, but for now this is a pretty good solution for both sides as he continues to get up to speed at the nose.
That's BS...most player don't wants to play nose tackle and you've heard this many times in the league in the past. Playing nose tackle doesn't take a genius...they just want to get at the QB.

London Fletcher said he's selfish. I'm sure there's a more selfish player out there in the NFL but I can't think of one right now....he's definitely the highest paid selfish player. It's nice to not show up for the off-season practices and then claim to be not good enough to play nose tackle collecting major money.
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

Does anyone doubt that. if Kedric Golston or Lorenzo Alexander had AH's physical abilities (including his "instincts"), not only would they play NT they would be All-Pro's at the position? AH ain't worth what he's been paid and is a selfish player.

W/ that said, I am all for whatever ends the drama and lets everyone move on.
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Re: Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

I'm not sure what to make of Haynesworth really. But it seems to me like his biggest concern has always been that as a NT he has to sacrifice certain stats, namely sacks. Like it doesn't matter if playing NT gives say Orakpo room to roam and adds 5 more sacks to Orakpo's stat sheet but that Haynesworth isn't getting those 5 stats. So AH would rather come off the bench as a pass rusher and get those 5 sacks himself. I'm guessing he wouldn't be as keen to come off the bench if it was to clog the middle
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