McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Newsflash, Shanahan is not without flaws and he's made his share of mistakes over the years, along with quite a bit of success as well. Not even one full year in and some seem to have their minds made up that Shanahan can't get it done.

Hilarious.

Nobody said turning around this Titanic of a franchise was going to be easy. Years of mediocre play, dishing out big paydays, and inmates running the asylum is going to take some time to get reversed and on a new track.

As to the first point- sure he's had successes and failures. What coach/GM hasn't? My point is, to have his first big move as our HC/Personnel man be such a failure at such a high price at the most important position... well, pretty darn bad start.

As to the second point, is anyone saying he can't get it done? He just hasn't gotten off on the right foot.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

As to the first point- sure he's had successes and failures. What coach/GM hasn't? My point is, to have his first big move as our HC/Personnel man be such a failure at such a high price at the most important position... well, pretty darn bad start.

As to the second point, is anyone saying he can't get it done? He just hasn't gotten off on the right foot.

Your first point is negated by the fact that it doesn't matter how he handled it. Maybe it was said as a pay back for the way Donovan has played. I, along with you and others, have no idea what may have been said in private conversations between the two of them. After all, the man has seen good and bad QBs and some that try to pull the wool over Shannahan's eyes. I think McNabb falls in the latter. What high price are you referring to?

This offense is about urgency and not about falling asleep.

Your second point makes no sense to me. Who gives a damn about how he says it - just say it! It's obvious to me that Donovan is not taking his audition seriously.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by juskins

Your first point is negated by the fact that it doesn't matter how he handled it. Maybe it was said as a pay back for the way Donovan has played. I, along with you and others, have no idea what may have been said in private conversations between the two of them. After all, the man has seen good and bad QBs and some that try to pull the wool over Shannahan's eyes. I think McNabb falls in the latter. What high price are you referring to?

This offense is about urgency and not about falling asleep.

Your second point makes no sense to me. Who gives a damn about how he says it - just say it! It's obvious to me that Donovan is not taking his audition seriously.

Redskins Insider - Kyle Shanahan: Donovan McNabb 'said he didn't say any of that'

[juskins]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Redskins Insider - Kyle Shanahan: Donovan McNabb 'said he didn't say any of that'

I saw and heard what Kyle Shannahan said. I personally think he (McNabb) and his agent are trying to win the day by playing up this disrespectful angle. Don't you?

He can't hack this offense. Just maybe Mike is showing compassion by making it an issue (benching) for McNabb and his agent so they can go elsewhere and talk football.

[skinsnut]

As much as some may not like the agent's "complaining"....it actually benefits 2 parties.
1. McNabb...it may stabilize his value to other teams.
2. The Skins...the crappier Shanny looks like as a coach, the higher trade value McNabb could have due to perceived misuse...

I say...the more controversy, the better, if we intend to trade him.
In this case..the more bad news...the better for the Skins.

[tdSKINS1]

In the end it just seems like the Redskins everytime just get the worst end of everything. Nothing ever seems to work out for us. Injuries, trades, draft picks, even going back to when Sean Taylor died it's been a nightmare since.

[tdSKINS1]

With our luck to McNabb will go somewhere else next year and tear it up haha.

[30gut]

Luck, Locker or Gabbert?

[skinsguy]

Seriously, I'm starting to lose a lot of respect for Donovan McNabb. I mean, having his agent come out and take aim at the coaching staff is ridiculous. He needs to face the facts that HE has not played up to his potential here in Washington. The Shanahans require 110% effort, and DM just hasn't given such. I know there are fans here who never want to place blame where it belongs (mostly player execution of plays) but it all boils down to McNabb just not making the grade. Other than the deep ball, he hasn't shown us anything better or different than what we had with Jason Campbell.

Sure, I put blame on Mike Shanahan for how he handled the Detroit game, but in the bigger scheme of things, Mike realizes bringing Donovan McNabb on board was a big, epic fail, at least for this season.

[Bucket]

How was this handled poorly? What is the NFL coming to when you can't bench a QB for poor performance?

I don't give a shit what Mcnabb has done in Philly. He hasn't done shit here, and it's not only because he doens't know the offense.

-His drop from center is slow as dog shit. He litereally gets to take a look at 1-2 reads before he's sacked, and that has to do with the Oline, but it also has to do with his drop from center.

-He underthrows alot of WR's. Armstrong should have atleast 2-3 more TD's this year, but has had to come back for the ball or go off his route to make a nice catch.

How many times against Dallas to our WR's actaully catch the football and was able to run for 3-7 more yards after the catch?

You never see that with Mcnabb.. He always throws it low, and our WR's have to catch it and fall to the ground.

[GusFrerotte]

I don't expect the Shanny to be here on Jan 1 2013. The off the field developments have been a total joke, and the on field developments aren't the best, with a few nice exceptions like Armstrong. Shanny and the FO should have known DM wasn't a good fit before the trade, so the whole drama should have been avoided altogether. We got our GM, but I think we were sold a total bad bill of goods with him. Our draft sucked bad. Hopefully they have a high learning curve and 2011 will be much better, if not, my prediction about Jan 1, 2013 will be a lock.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I don't expect the Shanny to be here on Jan 1 2013. The off the field developments have been a total joke, and the on field developments aren't the best, with a few nice exceptions like Armstrong. Shanny and the FO should have known DM wasn't a good fit before the trade, so the whole drama should have been avoided altogether. We got our GM, but I think we were sold a total bad bill of goods with him. Our draft sucked bad. Hopefully they have a high learning curve and 2011 will be much better, if not, my prediction about Jan 1, 2013 will be a lock.

You are a total idiot!!! Comments like this make me scratch my head.. Lets start over again with a new coach, and new system every couple of years because it works so well..

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Brody81

You are a total idiot!!! Comments like this make me scratch my head.. Lets start over again with a new coach, and new system every couple of years because it works so well..

He is predicting something. He's not proposing something. "I expect something to be so and so" means something different from "I want something to be so and so in the future".

[juskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Redskins Insider - Donovan McNabb's agent blasts the Shanahans

Mike Shanahan responds to Fletcher Smith | ProFootballTalk

I was surprised there wasn't a thread on this yet.

I get what Fletcher Smith is doing. And I hear what Shanahan is saying. McNabb has said all the right things, but his agent works for him. If he didn't want Smith saying those things about KS and MS, Smith wouldn't have.

The Shanahans have blundered seriously this year. My way or the highway is okay to an extent, but you have to blend that kind of style with deft management of personalities (see New England. Same attitude, no leaks, no malcontents). And in that department, we have failed. They've acted like stubborn jerks at times this year, with ego prevailing.

I was hoping the Skins were finally being run by adults. I'm still not so sure. The dysfunction this year seems just as bad or worse as in year's past.

This is football, not some popularity sport. If Donovan leaves, so what? I would rather have a coach realize his weak spots on the team and take action. Let the coach set the theme, not the players, media or political correctness.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by juskins

This is football, not some popularity sport. If Donovan leaves, so what? I would rather have a coach realize his weak spots on the team and take action. Let the coach set the theme, not the players, media or political correctness.

How does this in any way relate to my post that you quoted?