McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

[juskins]

I realize now that it is not a good idea to trade for a QB within your division. I get the feeling that McNabb has betrayed us by purposely playing badly and keeping our defense on the field.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by juskins

I realize now that it is not a good idea to trade for a QB within your division. I get the feeling that McNabb has betrayed us by purposely playing badly and keeping our defense on the field.

So he intentionally played bad to screw the Redskins over? That is way over the top. It is more likely that he had trouble with the system. However, nothing excuses the poor management MS has shown all season in respect to personnel, and McNabb in particular. Imagine finding out that you were getting demoted in a company wide email newsletter, that probably wouldn't sit well with you either. In terms of KS, he has been heavily scrutinized all season for his play calling and IMO hasn't shown knowledge of the talent he has on the roster.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So he intentionally played bad to screw the Redskins over? That is way over the top. It is more likely that he had trouble with the system. However, nothing excuses the poor management MS has shown all season in respect to personnel, and McNabb in particular. Imagine finding out that you were getting demoted in a company wide email newsletter, that probably wouldn't sit well with you either. In terms of KS, he has been heavily scrutinized all season for his play calling and IMO hasn't shown knowledge of the talent he has on the roster.

Well, he sure didn't look good not winning for us. You are so upset with the way Shannahan has handled all aspects of his coaching, right?

He played Donovan in 13 games and then bad mouthed him. And what did Donovan do in those 13 games? Lets see, he kept the defense on the field and gave the offense a rest. Obviously, Shannahan was pissed at the franchise QB who can't learn his offense.

I would bench him too. Oh, it's not about the benching but the lack of respect for McNabb. His game sucks and thanks for providing no gamesmanship or character as a player on the field. It sure does seem as if he screwed us. Balls under thrown or overthrown and the unnecessary sacks. What do you think?

I have no respect for that aspect of his unprofessional game.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by juskins

Well, he sure didn't look good not winning for us. You are so upset with the way Shannahan has handled all aspects of his coaching, right?

He played Donovan in 13 games and then bad mouthed him. And what did Donovan do in those 13 games? Lets see, he kept the defense on the field and gave the offense a rest. Obviously, Shannahan was pissed at the franchise QB who can't learn his offense.

I would bench him too. Oh, it's not about the benching but the lack of respect for McNabb. His game sucks and thanks for providing no gamesmanship or character as a player on the field. It sure does seem as if he screwed us. Balls under thrown or overthrown and the unnecessary sacks. What do you think?

I have no respect for that aspect of his unprofessional game.

You sure love to accuse people of things just to make your claims look good. I'm glad you aren't company manager because you'd be the perfect douchebag boss who thinks that you're in the right in whatever you do.

First of all, BaltimoreSkins simply saying that Shanahan bungled his managing of personnel matters does not lead to the conclusion that he disagrees with anything.

Next, I'm the one who doesn't have the problem with the benching itself but with the other BS going around. The guy you're responding to may think differently, but of course, you don't care and shove it in here anyway.

And you like to deviate from the initial subject, which is whether McNabb is deliberately mailing it in or not. Rather than provide evidence, you attack the messenger who you think believes "so-and-so" bad things and simply insist with circular reasoning that your interpretation is of course, the correct one.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You sure love to accuse people of things just to make your claims look good. I'm glad you aren't company manager because you'd be the perfect douchebag boss who thinks that you're in the right in whatever you do.

First of all, BaltimoreSkins simply saying that Shanahan bungled his managing of personnel matters does not lead to the conclusion that he disagrees with anything.

Next, I'm the one who doesn't have the problem with the benching itself but with the other BS going around. The guy you're responding to may think differently, but of course, you don't care and shove it in here anyway.

And you like to deviate from the initial subject, which is whether McNabb is deliberately mailing it in or not. Rather than provide evidence, you attack the messenger who you think believes "so-and-so" bad things and simply insist with circular reasoning that your interpretation is of course, the correct one.

Who gives a rat's ass about what mistakes Shannahan has made. The problem is with the QB.

[juskins]

To me, this post says it all:


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Originally Posted by FRPLG View Post
Memo to Donovan. Having your agent do the dirty work so you can still call yourself "professional" is bullsh*t. If you want to take the high-ground then you take it. You don't travel it and send your friends and family the other way. Pathetic...you sucked this year and Shanny sat you. You got what you earned. This organization didn't owe you some magical level of respect for deeds that you did for another team. The Eagles sh*t on your head and you said nothing and neither did your agent. THEY owed you respect for what you did for them. You haven't done crap for the Redskins so don't fool yourself into thinking you have earned one iota of respect from the team or fans. You got your ass outplayed by Rex f'ing Grossman. Get over your diva ass and don' let the door hit ya on the way out.
NICE post F.
DM is a politician....I don't think Shanny gives a damn...I like that.
It's a shame DM's play could not match his..........rhetoric.
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thankyou Joe.......

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[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by juskins

Who gives a rat's ass about what mistakes Shannahan has made. The problem is with the QB.

Then Shanahan shouldn't have taken the vet QB in the first place and solely try to get Luck or whoever the next hot QBs are. McNabb has been dirtballing even during his time in Philly and people saw his nonchalance in the Super Bowl. Hell, he helped handed us the season sweep of the Eagles in 2008 thanks to his classic balls in the dirt and the Jamarcus Russell led Raiders did beat the McNabb led Eagles.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Then Shanahan shouldn't have taken the vet QB in the first place and solely try to get Luck or whoever the next hot QBs are. McNabb has been dirtballing even during his time in Philly and people saw his nonchalance in the Super Bowl. Hell, he helped handed us the season sweep of the Eagles in 2008 thanks to his classic balls in the dirt and the Jamarcus Russell led Raiders did beat the McNabb led Eagles.

If they had known what they know now then you are absolutely correct.

There's always that element of "maybe a change of scenery will recoup his desire". I don't think the Skins should go QB with the first pick. We need a blue chip nose tackle and help on the OLine before we select a QB.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by juskins

Well, he sure didn't look good not winning for us. You are so upset with the way Shannahan has handled all aspects of his coaching, right?

He played Donovan in 13 games and then bad mouthed him. And what did Donovan do in those 13 games? Lets see, he kept the defense on the field and gave the offense a rest. Obviously, Shannahan was pissed at the franchise QB who can't learn his offense.

I would bench him too. Oh, it's not about the benching but the lack of respect for McNabb. His game sucks and thanks for providing no gamesmanship or character as a player on the field. It sure does seem as if he screwed us. Balls under thrown or overthrown and the unnecessary sacks. What do you think?

I have no respect for that aspect of his unprofessional game.

So based on you comments you are okay with Shannahan throwing away a second and fourth next year, when he clearly didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to trading for McNabb? Trust me I am OK with the benching of McNabb, I just think him finding out from the media as opposed to his boss is a poor decision. I think most people actually think McNabb is a stand up guy so I don't get your comment on no character.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So based on you comments you are okay with Shannahan throwing away a second and fourth next year, when he clearly didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to trading for McNabb? Trust me I am OK with the benching of McNabb, I just think him finding out from the media as opposed to his boss is a poor decision. I think most people actually think McNabb is a stand up guy so I don't get your comment on no character.

Good post, best I read so far, cause I'm sure it's all DM fault, and weather you agree with Shanny or not, (which I don't) I agree moving DM is important for the team, but there is a better way to doing it.

[Bigreds77]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Good post, best I read so far, cause I'm sure it's all DM fault, and weather you agree with Shanny or not, (which I don't) I agree moving DM is important for the team, but there is a better way to doing it.

I like the move it sends a message to everyone.Play hard or go home.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So based on you comments you are okay with Shannahan throwing away a second and fourth next year, when he clearly didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to trading for McNabb? Trust me I am OK with the benching of McNabb, I just think him finding out from the media as opposed to his boss is a poor decision. I think most people actually think McNabb is a stand up guy so I don't get your comment on no character.

Going forward I'm sure this won't happen again. I don't like not having picks no matter who gave them up for what reason. At the time the trade happen most would have made that trade.

You can't do anything about it now. It's a good thing we have a coach who sees ahead and realize that the Skins would not reach Shannahan's goals with McNabb. Let's stop with the "but he gave away picks for a washed up player". It has happen before Shannahan and hopefully it will stop because everyone has learned a lesson.

I said on the playing field he had no character. Stop with the nit picking, move on.