2011 Senior Bowl Week

skinsfan69 · 01-25-2011, 12:02 PM

Locker has bust written all over him. I hope we don't take him....or Newton.

T.O.Killa · 01-25-2011, 12:09 PM

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Locker has bust written all over him. I hope we don't take him....or Newton.

I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 01-25-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

Hog1 · 01-25-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

Good Post!!
Would you please shoot a copy over to Redskins Park just to make sure Bruce and MS are on board with the plan?

Chico23231 · 01-25-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

A-freaking-men...well said

skinsfan69 · 01-25-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

This is a great point. And I know a lot of people will not agree with my opinion but I would just get rid of just about every guy on this team approaching 30, tank next year and get in position to draft Andrew Luck in 2012. Of course he's not a sure thing but he seems to be more of a sure thing than any of the guys coming out this year.

skinsfaninok · 01-25-2011, 02:30 PM

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This is a great point. And I know a lot of people will not agree with my opinion but I would just get rid of just about every guy on this team approaching 30, tank next year and get in position to draft Andrew Luck in 2012. Of course he's not a sure thing but he seems to be more of a sure thing than any of the guys coming out this year.

**** That! I'm tired of losing every season, Luck has had 1 great season.. Don't make this guy out to be Manning.. He could be Tim Couch who knows but it's not worth TANKING a season

skinsfan69 · 01-25-2011, 02:39 PM

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**** That! I'm tired of losing every season, Luck has had 1 great season.. Don't make this guy out to be Manning.. He could be Tim Couch who knows but it's not worth TANKING a season

This team isn't going to the playoffs next year. We need another 2-3 years of solid drafting. It's a rebuilding job.

skinsfaninok · 01-25-2011, 02:40 PM

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This team isn't going to the playoffs next year. We need another 2-3 years of solid drafting. It's a rebuilding job.

Maybe but maybe not.. The NFL changes faster than you think.. I agree we do need younger guys in

redsk1 · 01-25-2011, 02:58 PM

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This team isn't going to the playoffs next year. We need another 2-3 years of solid drafting. It's a rebuilding job.

No doubt. We need at least 2-3 more years of good drafting to compete. We're not winning the SB next year.

Tanking is a tough word, but yes, we need to get younger, and start drafting well. I doubt we'll be a top 5 pick next year though to have a shot at Luck.

skinsfan69 · 01-25-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.

Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.

skinsfaninok · 01-25-2011, 02:27 PM

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Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.

In all fairness they are saying the same about Tebow, and he looked pretty damn good in 2 starts this yr

skinsfan69 · 01-25-2011, 02:33 PM

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In all fairness they are saying the same about Tebow, and he looked pretty damn good in 2 starts this yr

C'mon. I could probably go out and get 150 yards on Houston's defense. If Tebow plays a full 16 game schedule his weaknesses are going to show up. 2 starts don't prove a thing. I want to see him over a 16 game schedule.

skinsfaninok · 01-25-2011, 02:34 PM

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C'mon. I could probably go out and get 150 yards on Houston's defense. If Tebow plays a full 16 game schedule his weaknesses are going to show up. 2 starts don't prove a thing. I want to see him over a 16 game schedule.

I agree but the guy has been doubted his whole football career even at Florida in the beginning. All he does is win and that's what matters most

Terpfan76 · 01-25-2011, 05:13 PM

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Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.

To throw in the towel on Locker is a bit premature. True he hasn't looked very good in college especially considering one could easily say he regressed this past season. That being said, he has all the physical talent to play the position and shows the ability to play at a high level, but seems as though he needs more coaching and time to develop. If he were available when we pick in the second round, then I'd be fine with drafting him. It would be a good value pick considering how high people were on him last season.

As for shredding PAC10 defenses, look at the talent level that surrounded him. Not very good so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that his play would suffer. It reminds me a bit of Archie Manning. He was a damn good qb, he just played for some terrible teams. Can't blame all of the success or failure on one man.

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