Andy Reid or Mike Shanahan? Eagles President takes shot at Shanny

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess MS never had to rebuild in 14 years in Denver.

Lol I guess not.. Some folks just don't know WTF their saying sometimes.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess MS never had to rebuild in 14 years in Denver.

I don't recall him taking over a Denver team that was old, aging and 4-12. Do you?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I still like the Jammal Brown trade. Think it was a bit of a coup, and at 29/30 don't see him as being an old veteran. You can check my feelings on McNabb from the threads about the trade. But, and this is how I will view it going forward, Shanahan wanted to clear the baggage and the air of Redskin Park. That wasn't going to happen as long as JC was on this team, and no one else we had was going to be anywhere near as capable as JC. So, Shanahan and BA take a shot, and do reset. Was DM exactly who we thought he was, for me yes. Will we survive, and start building picks going forward. I like to think so. I like that next year we have all our picks plus the Raiders 4th rounder. So again, if we win anything last year, or next year GREAT, but by year 3 I would expect the Skins to be consistent challengers for the Division and Conference. Let's hope our collective hearts can wait that long!

You mean 2012? Next year I believe we are missing a 3rd and 4th rounder but have a extra picks later on.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Or.... John Elway didn't win a SB w/ out Terrell Davis. Elway took some pretty average teams to 3 straight SB's. That will not be done again. When Denver got better players around him is when they won. Part of that was Shanahan getting good players and coaching them up. He deserves credit for that. I'm saying Shanahna isn't a good coach cause he is, or was.... all I'm saying is he didn't do a good job year one.

Maybe Terrell Davis would not have been so successful without Shanahan's great running scheme?

We could go back and forth for days.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I still like the Jammal Brown trade. Think it was a bit of a coup, and at 29/30 don't see him as being an old veteran. You can check my feelings on McNabb from the threads about the trade. But, and this is how I will view it going forward, Shanahan wanted to clear the baggage and the air of Redskin Park. That wasn't going to happen as long as JC was on this team, and no one else we had was going to be anywhere near as capable as JC. So, Shanahan and BA take a shot, and do reset. Was DM exactly who we thought he was, for me yes. Will we survive, and start building picks going forward. I like to think so. I like that next year we have all our picks plus the Raiders 4th rounder. So again, if we win anything last year, or next year GREAT, but by year 3 I would expect the Skins to be consistent challengers for the Division and Conference. Let's hope our collective hearts can wait that long!

Quite reasonable. I like your take on J. Brown too. Actually, the J. Brown deal was part of the McNabb trade essentially.

[MTK]

We took on Brown knowing he wasn't 100% and wasn't likely to be for the entire season. He should be back to 100% this year though. Too early to knock that deal.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't recall him taking over a Denver team that was old, aging and 4-12. Do you?

They had some down years. In 14 years that roster turned over several times and Shanahan was the one making the moves to keep them competitive.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You mean 2012? Next year I believe we are missing a 3rd and 4th rounder but have a extra picks later on.

Yes, 2012 is next year. This year's draft we are missing a 3rd and 4th rounder, with extra(s) later on.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Maybe Terrell Davis would not have been so successful without Shanahan's great running scheme?

We could go back and forth for days.

We could. As I said, Shanahan was a good coach back then. So far with us, I don't think he's been very good. He needs time to get it right and he deserves that time. I just don't think he's the right guy for this job.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

They had some down years. In 14 years that roster turned over several times and Shanahan was the one making the moves to keep them competitive.

This