Ramsey's last days as a Redskin

BossHog · 04-21-2005, 02:35 PM

OK. The sites's back up. How many of you guys think Jason Campbell will be Ramsey's replacement? How many of you think Campbell is a better prospect than Ramsey was coming out? I don't believe Gibbs and Co.'s late visit to Auburn tuesday was a definite sign that we're are going to draft Campbell but, the 'sources' make it seem like that was the only reason we made the trip. With the ninth and twenty-fifth pick we could draft some sure fire talent. Maybe Antrel Rolle and Matt Jones, Carlos Rodgers and Erasmus James. or even Mike Williams and Adam Jones! Who knows? From Cerrato's lastest interviews it seems like we're still very much interested in trading down from number nine. Which means we could be looking forward to drafting first-round 'fallers' or solid second-round talent. I know Ramsey is heated right now and the rumor reporters are hunting Ramsey down to trrow brush onto the fire.

Daseal · 04-21-2005, 02:39 PM

I feel Ramsey is our starter and we won't draft Campbell, but I think coming out of college Campbell is the better prospect.

It just doesn't make sense. We have two needs. CB and WR (not necessarily in that order.)

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 02:40 PM

ARGH. This is why I wish we would stop talking about this. I know crazier things have happened, but come on...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-21-2005, 02:42 PM

If we use ANOTHER first round pick on an unproven quarterback (when we've already got one in the stable) our front office is retarded. Replace Gibbs, Snyder, Cerrato, et al with some drunk, epileptic, crack-smoking, retarded, dying, and blind monkeys and maybe, just maybe, our team will be run a little better.

Gibbs, in all his player personnel wisdom, was loyal to Brunell for 10 weeks last year despite Brunell's god-awful play. Now this same guy is ready to warm up Patrick's replacement when Ramsey hasn't suited up for one game in 2005? WTF.

We need to give Ramsey the reigns for next season and demonstrate some confidence in his abilities. We need to use that first rounder we dumbly traded for on a cornerback, wideout, or defensive lineman. We need a new front office.

FRPLG · 04-21-2005, 02:47 PM

I have spent the better part of my day going over just about every relavent piece of recent "info" from every site imagineable. Essentially no one agrees on anything the Skins are gonna do or anyone else for that matter. I have seen at least 4 mocks that are wildly different in the first 10 picks. As best I can determine it seems anything you have heard in the last week is 95% chance disinformation. So I will basically go back to what just about everyone here has said and believes...our two biggest needs are CB and WR (not necessarily in that order) and with our current two picks we'll probably go that route. Nothing else makes sense unless we swing a deal to move up in the first to 15ish by trading our 25 and Gardner and then trading the 9 and 15ish for Edwards and a second rounder. This is unlikely but the only way that it is even possible(I hope they think that way atleast).

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 02:47 PM

Rumor fellas, just a rumor... Let's move on.

Daseal · 04-21-2005, 02:48 PM

Exactly - Gibbs needs to be confident, even if he's not, feign it. Ramsey can play, but don't handcuff him to Portis. Let him throw some. I like a strong running game, don't get me wrong. Let him gun from time to time.

SkinsRock · 04-21-2005, 02:48 PM

.....will occur years from now.

It is pure speculation (by Lenny P at that!). Joe Gibbs would not praise a player like he did with Ramsey yesterday if his days were numbered....he wouldn't say bad things, but he would not praise him. Gibbs appears to be very big into respecting and appreciating the fans, and being as honest as he can with them (which is awesome!). After what he said about Ramsey yesterday, drafting a 1st round QB to replace him would go completely against this. I don't see it happening. What they will actually do? Who knows?!? But I don't see them taking a QB in day 1...maybe a "project" in the later rounds for down the road.

FRPLG · 04-21-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

If we use ANOTHER first round pick on an unproven quarterback (when we've already got one in the stable) our front office is retarded. Replace Gibbs, Snyder, Cerrato, et al with some drunk, epileptic, crack-smoking, retarded, dying, and blind monkeys and maybe, just maybe, our team will be run a little better.

Gibbs, in all his player personnel wisdom, was loyal to Brunell for 10 weeks last year despite Brunell's god-awful play. Now this same guy is ready to warm up Patrick's replacement when Ramsey hasn't suited up for one game in 2005? WTF.

We need to give Ramsey the reigns for next season and demonstrate some confidence in his abilities. We need to use that first rounder we dumbly traded for on a cornerback, wideout, or defensive lineman. We need a new front office.

So how do you really feel? I mean the abiguity in your post is driving me crazy!

cpayne5 · 04-21-2005, 02:50 PM

I don't think we're gonna draft Campbell.

Other teams that are interested in Campbell may now be looking to leap frog the skins' #25 pick. Maybe this is just a story to draw attention away from what they're really trying to accomplish.

I think the Skins accumulating 2 #1's shows a desire for them to package those picks (which may or may not include a disgruntled WR) and move higher up the board for someone that is going to make a difference this year, a la Edwards.

I'm thinking they're gonna make a push for the #1 or #2 selection.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 02:52 PM

I hope not. Just as someone else said, Edwards is good, but not a special kind of player.

FRPLG · 04-21-2005, 02:52 PM

I'd be happy with Jones or Rodgers at 9 and Matt Jones at 25. Anyone else? Jones really fits when you think about it. We have a core group or WRs capable of doing the job adequately(most likely) so taking a flyer on the most intriguing guy in the draft would be ok.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 02:53 PM

I'd be OK with that. Taking a big chance, but it could pay big dividends.

Riggo44 · 04-21-2005, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Rumor fellas, just a rumor... Let's move on.

:vomit-smi

FRPLG · 04-21-2005, 02:55 PM

Jones makes me nervous inside but I just know for a damn fact that if he ends up in Philly he'll end up being the next damn Jerry Freaking Rice and the Skins'll end up kick themselves for not taking him. Just based on how everything seems to go for the Skins compared to the bastard Feebles.

04-21-2005, 02:40 PM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin ARGH. This is why I wish we would stop talking about this. I know crazier things have happened, but come on... __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 02:42 PM	#4
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin If we use ANOTHER first round pick on an unproven quarterback (when we've already got one in the stable) our front office is retarded. Replace Gibbs, Snyder, Cerrato, et al with some drunk, epileptic, crack-smoking, retarded, dying, and blind monkeys and maybe, just maybe, our team will be run a little better. Gibbs, in all his player personnel wisdom, was loyal to Brunell for 10 weeks last year despite Brunell's god-awful play. Now this same guy is ready to warm up Patrick's replacement when Ramsey hasn't suited up for one game in 2005? WTF. We need to give Ramsey the reigns for next season and demonstrate some confidence in his abilities. We need to use that first rounder we dumbly traded for on a cornerback, wideout, or defensive lineman. We need a new front office.

04-21-2005, 02:47 PM	#5
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I have spent the better part of my day going over just about every relavent piece of recent "info" from every site imagineable. Essentially no one agrees on anything the Skins are gonna do or anyone else for that matter. I have seen at least 4 mocks that are wildly different in the first 10 picks. As best I can determine it seems anything you have heard in the last week is 95% chance disinformation. So I will basically go back to what just about everyone here has said and believes...our two biggest needs are CB and WR (not necessarily in that order) and with our current two picks we'll probably go that route. Nothing else makes sense unless we swing a deal to move up in the first to 15ish by trading our 25 and Gardner and then trading the 9 and 15ish for Edwards and a second rounder. This is unlikely but the only way that it is even possible(I hope they think that way atleast).

04-21-2005, 02:47 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin Rumor fellas, just a rumor... Let's move on. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 02:48 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin Exactly - Gibbs needs to be confident, even if he's not, feign it. Ramsey can play, but don't handcuff him to Portis. Let him throw some. I like a strong running game, don't get me wrong. Let him gun from time to time. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-21-2005, 02:35 PM	#1
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Ramsey's last days as a Redskin OK. The sites's back up. How many of you guys think Jason Campbell will be Ramsey's replacement? How many of you think Campbell is a better prospect than Ramsey was coming out? I don't believe Gibbs and Co.'s late visit to Auburn tuesday was a definite sign that we're are going to draft Campbell but, the 'sources' make it seem like that was the only reason we made the trip. With the ninth and twenty-fifth pick we could draft some sure fire talent. Maybe Antrel Rolle and Matt Jones, Carlos Rodgers and Erasmus James. or even Mike Williams and Adam Jones! Who knows? From Cerrato's lastest interviews it seems like we're still very much interested in trading down from number nine. Which means we could be looking forward to drafting first-round 'fallers' or solid second-round talent. I know Ramsey is heated right now and the rumor reporters are hunting Ramsey down to trrow brush onto the fire.

04-21-2005, 02:39 PM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I feel Ramsey is our starter and we won't draft Campbell, but I think coming out of college Campbell is the better prospect. It just doesn't make sense. We have two needs. CB and WR (not necessarily in that order.) __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-21-2005, 02:48 PM	#8
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin .....will occur years from now. It is pure speculation (by Lenny P at that!). Joe Gibbs would not praise a player like he did with Ramsey yesterday if his days were numbered....he wouldn't say bad things, but he would not praise him. Gibbs appears to be very big into respecting and appreciating the fans, and being as honest as he can with them (which is awesome!). After what he said about Ramsey yesterday, drafting a 1st round QB to replace him would go completely against this. I don't see it happening. What they will actually do? Who knows?!? But I don't see them taking a QB in day 1...maybe a "project" in the later rounds for down the road.

04-21-2005, 02:50 PM	#10
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I don't think we're gonna draft Campbell. Other teams that are interested in Campbell may now be looking to leap frog the skins' #25 pick. Maybe this is just a story to draw attention away from what they're really trying to accomplish. I think the Skins accumulating 2 #1's shows a desire for them to package those picks (which may or may not include a disgruntled WR) and move higher up the board for someone that is going to make a difference this year, a la Edwards. I'm thinking they're gonna make a push for the #1 or #2 selection. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

04-21-2005, 02:52 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I hope not. Just as someone else said, Edwards is good, but not a special kind of player. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 02:53 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin I'd be OK with that. Taking a big chance, but it could pay big dividends. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 02:55 PM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Ramsey's last days as a Redskin Jones makes me nervous inside but I just know for a damn fact that if he ends up in Philly he'll end up being the next damn Jerry Freaking Rice and the Skins'll end up kick themselves for not taking him. Just based on how everything seems to go for the Skins compared to the bastard Feebles.

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