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Re: Cerrato on Zorn
Snake, I agree with much of what you say. But, and maybe it was that I didn't hear it, but my biggest gripe with Cerrato's interview was that he didn't take ownership of the situation. He didn't say I made the decision to go with Zorn. I decided to surround myself with people I perceived would not be a threat to my authority (i.e. Fassel) and it's not on me. He wasn't ready to be a head coach and it was my responsibility as the man in charge to make sure he was.
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Re: Cerrato on Zorn
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He cannot own up to mistakes that in his own mind he did not make. "Self-delusional" is kinda the way I would describe Vinny Boombatz...
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It's just hilarious that we're supposed to believe Zorn's downfall was his ego. He was doomed from the start here with Vinny hovering over his every move. There's a reason why Vinny didn't trust Zorn from the start... he knew he was in over his head.
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I think Greg would have been an excellent hire because he had the team leadership behind him and I believe he learned more about what it takes to be a great headcoach from Gibbs. You don't work with someone that close without having part of their personallity rub off on you.
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Remember Fassel was very nearly our head coach in 2004, but then Gibbs came calling. And how are you going to turn him down? Then in 2008, Fassel wanted Zorn and Rex Ryan as his coordinators. We couldn't get Ryan but we did get Zorn for Fassel. But then Snyder caved to the whole "let a football guy run the team" mentality (I guess that was the real fan revolt) and let Cerrato-who, like it or not, has plenty of football experience-run Fassel out of town (before he even got here).
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But as others stated, Vinny should own up to making the mistake of hiring Zorn, when Cerrato, truly being a football guy, knew that Zorn was not cut out for the job. I looked at Cerrato's work history, and the truth is the man really was involved in good stuff and seemed to do his job well. When he arrived here, his good work ran out. Could Dan Synder just be the end all to why people are never successful here in ANY capacity???
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I didn't understand that either. Jim Zorn with a ego? You mean the man that used words like "gosh golly" and "ouchie" is a man with a ego? No, Bill Parcells has a ego. Bill Bellicheat has a ego. Rex Ryan has a ego. Mike Shannahan has a ego. Jim Zorn does not have a ego. I find some things comical about Vinny. 1) says he had nobody on staff that could call the plays, then rips Zorn for not listening to said incompetent staff 2) Wise asks him who's idea it was to bring in Jeff George after Brad Johnson had that good year. He doesn't recall...lol......in other word's it was Danny boys decision. 3) Considers Joe's second tenure a success...lol 4) Says Joe Gibb's stop calling plays due to media pressure?....lol 5) Says he checked out Haynesworth before the FA signing and that Sherm Smith vouched for his time in Tennessee. Seems that Sherm Smith disagrees 100% with Vinny. In fact, he told them "BUYER BEWARE". A flat out lie by Vinny on the AH signing. Smith: Cerrato's Recall 'Ridiculous' 6) Says Schwartz and Spaggs weren't experienced enough to be head coaches, but yet they thought a guy who had never been a coordinator would be a good head coach?....lol 7) You can tell he's lying about Dan's involvement in football matters. He always hesitates before he answers. Former Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato Joins Mike Wise In Studio « CBS Washington God I want this guy to get hit by a bus but still live. The best place for Vinny would be in traction in some rehab unit in a hospital right about now. If I were Jim Zorn, I'd kick Vinny square in the nuts if I ever ran into him again. |
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There's a reason why VC's phone will never ring from anyone in this league, other than from Snyder of course. He's a complete FAIL as a GM.
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When Vinny says if Gibbs called the plays in 2006, that they'd be back in the playoffs, i agree 100%. Seeing how much utter shit we were in 2006 made me eat crow, and i missed the Joe Gibbs offense. Hell it was simple minded, but it worked, was proven, and WON CHAMPIONSHIPS. Gibbs did get Cerrato high praise to Snyder. that much is true. I dont really believe Joe Gibbs would lie, just to put over the organization on his way out.
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I really truly feel in my heart that Vinny C. is a dickhead, but i think with spewing alot of his B.S., he gave us alot of truth about how things happened in the organization. Just wait for it, he will trash Dan Snyder before it is all over, and then Vinny will be a hero, lol.
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Snyder is the only supporter VC has... if he trashes him he's even more dumb than we thought.
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I've always felt like Snyder's friendship with Cerrato was not so much about the two if them, but about Snyder's respect for his father who, for whatever reason, was very tight with Vinny.
I know a lot of front offices would welcome VC to be part of their organization and do tge dirty work in the background. He had his first chance to lead here and he failed
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