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[SBXVII]

I'm feeling the kindness here thanks. No I'm not an ACCOUNTANT but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time

Ok, so your telling me that the steel industry has to show their books to the unions, the oil companies have to show their books to the unions, the coal companies have to show their books to the unions? Every cent is accounted for?

As I also said, in the 80's There was a monopolization because the NFL didn't want any other league football to come in and take viewer ship away which would cost money. Now there is the indoor league, UFL, and CFL which is shown also.

I provided bad analogies perhaps but it wasn't I who started saying that Rock stars are shown what the stadium makes that they played in in order to pay the Rock star. Basically what was stated was People that provide entertainment are entitled to see the books because they get paid a percentage of the total take for their performance. No it was not stated today or yesterday so I can see your confusion, but after putting their analogy to thought for a while and it really not holding water I figured out how I wanted to say that their analogy was BS. All you did was prove my point by saying they are bad analogies. But remember I was trying to tell others their analogy was idiotic also.

The whole point of a union is to protect the employee. Whether it be through health insurance, payment, safety rules and so forth. I don't have a problem with the union trying to get what they can for the employee. I have a problem with each individual player and their agent dickering out millions of dollars to get the most for the player yet the union wants to know what the books to make sure their not getting screwed. Trust me the players are not getting screwed if they are agreeing to the contracts.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok, so your telling me that the steel industry has to show their books to the unions, the oil companies have to show their books to the unions, the coal companies have to show their books to the unions? Every cent is accounted for?

Seriously? Why are you still comparing normal employees to NFL players? It's not the same. They are the product that the NFL is offering. Do you not understand that?

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I provided bad analogies perhaps but it wasn't I who started saying that Rock stars are shown what the stadium makes that they played in in order to pay the Rock star. Basically what was stated was People that provide entertainment are entitled to see the books because they get paid a percentage of the total take for their performance

The problem with your analogy is that the Rock star sets the demand on the venues of how much they'll be taking. (and more than the venue gets I imagine) That amount depends on how big the act is. U2 could demand more money from Fed-Ex field than would a Hootie and the Blowfish. However, when you are talking about "demanding to see the books", I assure you there isn't 1 billion dollars at stake at these concerts or performances either. That said, I guarantee you that if any venue went to the Rock Star and said, you need to take less because I'm losing money, chances are he would ask to see the books or he'd flat out walk out and play somewhere else. Why? Because the people are there to see/listen to him. He's the star, not the venue.

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The whole point of a union is to protect the employee. Whether it be through health insurance, payment, safety rules and so forth. I don't have a problem with the union trying to get what they can for the employee. .

Since you like comparing the NFL players to normal employees. How come ALL of the nfl employees aren't in the same union?