Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Dogtag

One has to look at statiscal analysis and ask the questions (1) Does this make sense to me? and (2) Is this painting a whole picture?

He's statistically been rated as one of the worst CBs in the league since his time in Atlanta. People see the INTs and assume he's a good CB. He's not. IF Oakland is kicking you to the curb after 8 games, chances are that you are pretty bad. Hell, even JaMarcus Russell stayed around for 3 years.

Originally Posted by 44ever

Right here! There are many factors that can destroy a great players ability to put up great stats. Playing on the Redskins is just one of them. I dont think I need to go down the list of ex Redskins that went on to have great careers elsewhere. Or Great players that the this org. has destroyed, right Haynesworth?

Give D Hall a better D-line and backfield and watch him hit top 10. (In every Category) Because he is top 10 in many.

Funny how most of the top 10 DB all play on top 10 teams. Interesting.

Are you kidding me? Just admit it and say "Hey, I like the guy a lot because he's flashy, but the truth is he's pretty bad at his position." He's been on of the worst rated CBs in the NFL since his days in Atlanta, and yet people like you still refuse to see him for what he is. Why? Because out of every 5 TDs allowed he gets 1 pick? (made up stat, but wouldn't be surprised)

To your other point, so now we have to upgrade everybody around him to make him look good? Funny, Nnamdi Asomugha didn't need a better team to be one of the best CBs in the league.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

He's statistically been rated as one of the worst CBs in the league since his time in Atlanta. People see the INTs and assume he's a good CB. He's not. IF Oakland is kicking you to the curb after 8 games, chances are that you are pretty bad. Hell, even JaMarcus Russell stayed around for 3 years.





Are you kidding me? Just admit it and say "Hey, I like the guy a lot because he's flashy, but the truth is he's pretty bad at his position." He's been on of the worst rated CBs in the NFL since his days in Atlanta, and yet people like you still refuse to see him for what he is. Why? Because out of every 5 TDs allowed he gets 1 pick? (made up stat, but wouldn't be surprised)

To your other point, so now we have to upgrade everybody around him to make him look good? Funny, Nnamdi Asomugha didn't need a better team to be one of the best CBs in the league.

I don't only like him because he is flashy. I see the potential he possesses and I see what hinders it. And yes, I say build a better, more aggressive D around him, and his style will pay off.

Do I think he's the best? No. But I believe he is better than some say he is. There are other guys on the Skins that I could say the same about.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I don't only like him because he is flashy. I see the potential he possesses and I see what hinders it. And yes, I say build a better, more aggressive D around him, and his style will pay off.

Do I think he's the best? No. But I believe he is better than some say he is. There are other guys on the Skins that I could say the same about.

Laziness in preparation? Lack of attention to detail?

My problem with the "style" argument is that DeAngelo Hall's defenses are never, ever good no matter where he is. While it's true that safety play behind Hall has generally been quite poor, it seems weird to try to argue that as a defense -- and then look at his style as anything but problematic.

In short, Hall takes risks that generate some (though I don't think a lot of) turnovers, but the defensive teams he plays for struggle every single year anyway. Among other things, those teams need tighter coverage in the secondary. And even as he's matured, it never comes from Hall.