26-27-60 QB formula

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I haven't seen a lot of solid research on the predicitive value of the wonderlic. I know it used to have none, but it does seem like players who have performed poorly on the wonderlic are also being treated tougher by the NFL coaches when they get there (see: Young, Vince). So perhaps we're reaching a point where the wonderlic matters for quarterbacks.

I still don't buy it though. If the head coach is going to hold a bias against players who are...slower to pick up the offense, then fire the coach, not the player.

I agree with you, however I think some QB's picked up by teams are picked up because of their ability and not looked at if they would fit the scheme the team runs.

and on another note how many HC's who pick up a QB build the scheme around the QB? I think when you see a really bad team go out and pick up a QB and the next year they are in the playoff hunt I start thinking the HC did a good job of changing up his scheme to what the QB does best. Then there is the HC that simply say the QB needs to learn the plays. I think the latter is ok for a team who already has a starting QB and picks one up in the draft to ride the bench a few yrs to learn the play calls.

[takethecake]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I agree with you, however I think some QB's picked up by teams are picked up because of their ability and not looked at if they would fit the scheme the team runs.

and on another note how many HC's who pick up a QB build the scheme around the QB? I think when you see a really bad team go out and pick up a QB and the next year they are in the playoff hunt I start thinking the HC did a good job of changing up his scheme to what the QB does best. Then there is the HC that simply say the QB needs to learn the plays. I think the latter is ok for a team who already has a starting QB and picks one up in the draft to ride the bench a few yrs to learn the play calls.

Interesting you should mention that because McNabb and Kyle Shanahan illustrate some of the scenarios that presents. Trying to explain why McNabb didn't perform that well last season, you could say it was McNabb's ineptitude at learning a new playbook, the Shanahan's "inflexibility" in accommodating him, or other factors (questionable OL, no receivers, etc).

The real question: assuming you can attribute some of McNabb's struggles to having trouble learning the playbook, could that have been predicted based on his Wonderlic score? Or could Andy Reid have predicted McNabb's poor clock management abilities?

IMO, way too many factors to say definitively that there's a clear link between the two. But at the same time, it's definitely in the back of my mind during talent selection. I think GMs should pay attention to the 26-27-60 forumula.