Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[Longtimefan]

The reality here is most fans just want to feel comfortable in the thought of long-term security at the QB position.

You don't have to look far in wondering why we continue to meet with minimal success year after year, we dont have stability at the most important position on the team. If John Beck were to be named the starting QB to commence the 2011 season, he would be for us the third starting QB in as many years. That needs to change.

[IRISHSKIN24]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have NO faith in Beck guys, He's 30 and has a very avg arm. Sorry but I'd honestly rather have VY or Orton, Young can make plays out of no where and atleast Orton has played very well the last 3 years

i don't buy the age problem....he's 30, but he has very little wear and tear if any. if you click on the link i posted above it shows him trowing a 70 yrd bomb...granted its been a some years.

anyway i trust Shanny, he wouldn't pass on high rated rookies if he doubted that Beck would be better (at least for this season).

[skinsfaninok]

I trust MS also but I thought Mcnabb would work as well

[gafinfan]

As a fan of the Dolphins since 66 I will only say this. John Beck was thrown to the wolves with the hope of saving Cam Cameron's job,

Some facts you might want to think about before judging Beck:
1. He was on the PS until just 4 days before starting. Remember he started the season as the # 3 QB on the chart.
2. The o-line was in shambles
3. The starting RB was the 3rd stringer as both Ronnie and Ricky were on IR
4. The Dolphins #1 WR had just been traded the week before to the Chargers
and last but not least one of the o-line guards openly stated he would only play if C. Lemon were the starter. You may recall a fight on the team plane after Beck's first start; that's what the misunderstanding was all about. It also points to the lack of Vet and coaching leadership that year.

This guy never had a chance. Yes I am a Johnny Beck fan, always have been, even before Miami drafted him. Hated Quinn knew he would be a bust, he is.

I tell you this, honestly if John is your starter when you play Miami there will be one Miami fan on your sideline yelling for Johnny to play payback time and for the Skins to win big time. Run up the score, won't hurt my feelings at all!

BTW I still have and wear my #9 Beck Orange Jersey!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

The reality here is most fans just want to feel comfortable in the thought of long-term security at the QB position.

You don't have to look far in wondering why we continue to meet with minimal success year after year, we dont have stability at the most important position on the team. If John Beck were to be named the starting QB to commence the 2011 season, he would be for us the third starting QB in as many years. That needs to change.

Preach.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by gafinfan

As a fan of the Dolphins since 66 I will only say this. John Beck was thrown to the wolves with the hope of saving Cam Cameron's job,

Some facts you might want to think about before judging Beck:
1. He was on the PS until just 4 days before starting. Remember he started the season as the # 3 QB on the chart.
2. The o-line was in shambles
3. The starting RB was the 3rd stringer as both Ronnie and Ricky were on IR
4. The Dolphins #1 WR had just been traded the week before to the Chargers
and last but not least one of the o-line guards openly stated he would only play if C. Lemon were the starter. You may recall a fight on the team plane after Beck's first start; that's what the misunderstanding was all about. It also points to the lack of Vet and coaching leadership that year.

This guy never had a chance. Yes I am a Johnny Beck fan, always have been, even before Miami drafted him. Hated Quinn knew he would be a bust, he is.

I tell you this, honestly if John is your starter when you play Miami there will be one Miami fan on your sideline yelling for Johnny to play payback time and for the Skins to win big time. Run up the score, won't hurt my feelings at all!

BTW I still have and wear my #9 Beck Orange Jersey!

Thanks for the insight

[rbanerjee23]

I honestly believe this is just Shanny being Shanny ... staying mum about his true moves as he ducks and deals in the background

[GusFrerotte]

This is a frigging smokescreen, I will say it til I am blue in the face. Shanny said the draft was only half the equation. We fulfilled many needs with the draft. The WR corp alone is taken care of. Only major needs not taken care of were QB and O line. We can probably find some gems with undrafted FA for the line, and save money for the FA QB acquisition.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

The reality here is most fans just want to feel comfortable in the thought of long-term security at the QB position.

You don't have to look far in wondering why we continue to meet with minimal success year after year, we dont have stability at the most important position on the team. If John Beck were to be named the starting QB to commence the 2011 season, he would be for us the third starting QB in as many years. That needs to change.

While I could not agree with you more, but as you well know having a francise QB without the other components is fruitless. While they did not secure the QB, they did take significant steps (and they will add to the O-line in FA) to the other components to make his life easier.
If they could have gotten the QB they wanted they would have....or he is not available yet. Next years draft and FA will be a good time as this years was.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Hog1

While I could not agree with you more, but as you well know having a francise QB without the other components is fruitless. While they did not secure the QB, they did take significant steps (and they will add to the O-line in FA) to the other components to make his life easier.
If they could have gotten the QB they wanted they would have....or he is not available yet. Next years draft and FA will be a good time as this years was.

Moore would by a great pickup. Luck would be the best, but I doubt we are going to be in the bottom 10 teams(I hope not anyway).

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by gafinfan

As a fan of the Dolphins since 66 I will only say this. John Beck was thrown to the wolves with the hope of saving Cam Cameron's job,

Some facts you might want to think about before judging Beck:
1. He was on the PS until just 4 days before starting. Remember he started the season as the # 3 QB on the chart.
2. The o-line was in shambles
3. The starting RB was the 3rd stringer as both Ronnie and Ricky were on IR
4. The Dolphins #1 WR had just been traded the week before to the Chargers
and last but not least one of the o-line guards openly stated he would only play if C. Lemon were the starter. You may recall a fight on the team plane after Beck's first start; that's what the misunderstanding was all about. It also points to the lack of Vet and coaching leadership that year.

This guy never had a chance. Yes I am a Johnny Beck fan, always have been, even before Miami drafted him. Hated Quinn knew he would be a bust, he is.

I tell you this, honestly if John is your starter when you play Miami there will be one Miami fan on your sideline yelling for Johnny to play payback time and for the Skins to win big time. Run up the score, won't hurt my feelings at all!

BTW I still have and wear my #9 Beck Orange Jersey!

Thanks for the insight man, it's a bit of a relief.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

I say let's see what we have in Beck if he can beat Grossman out for the starting job put him on the field. Open competition, let the best man win.

We know what Grossman is, we know what Vince Young is, we know what Kyle Orton is and he's going to cost a bunch to get. There's no franchise QB out there right now.

[Dirtbag59]

Draft Day Breakdown from Jaws

At the very least we can understand why Shanahan might have ranked Beck above Quinn, Kolb, and Russel on draft day.

Also funny to see Kipers best available during the draft.

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have NO faith in Beck guys, He's 30 and has a very avg arm. Sorry but I'd honestly rather have VY or Orton, Young can make plays out of no where and atleast Orton has played very well the last 3 years

I feel that you're right to be skeptical as it relates to Beck. However if arm strength is what you're worried about, well lets just say Beck has you covered

[SirClintonPortis]

Seemed more like 60 yards to me, but it's obvious that Beck has more than just a noodle arm.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have NO faith in Beck guys, He's 30 and has a very avg arm.

I don't post that often but no offense it often seems like you're loudly factual incorrect:

Originally Posted by By Jim Corbett, USA TODAY

Brigham Young quarterback John Beck is among the players who raised his stock with an impressive showing at the Indianapolis scouting combine.
As much as he impressed with his arm, Beck proved to be a sharp decision-maker, too, perhaps best exemplified when confronted with one of those combine brain-teasers.....Beck impressed with his vision, accuracy and velocity, soaring up the charts from middle of the pack to among those in the mix after the top two prospects at the quarterback position.

"There's JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn, and it's John Beck next," says Rob Rang, a senior draft analyst for NFLDraftScout.com. "He's very accurate. He really helped himself by throwing well at the combine."

Beck's ball speed of 61.1 mph was second best among quarterbacks and better than Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith's 58.5 mph, Michigan State's Drew Stanton's 55.7 or Stanford's Trent Edwards' 55.2. (Neither Russell nor Quinn threw at the combine.)

Beck sliding into No. 3 QB spot in NFL draft - USATODAY.com

Also, I asked Anthony Armstrong about Beck during his radio show awhile back and AAA said that Beck had a live arm.