1500 Still Missing, 100's Dead, Floods, Etc..

[saden1]

I have no idea what Obama is doing but he really needs cut his trip short and not be seen celebrating.

With all these crazy weather related disasters we really have to ask ourselves if global climate change has anything to do with them.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have no idea what Obama is doing but he really needs cut his trip short and not be seen celebrating.

With all these crazy weather related disasters we really have to ask ourselves if global climate change has anything to do with them.

So what if it does?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

So what if it does?

It would be wise to look at reducing the impact of green house gases as scientists have advocated. I mean, we are spending billions in more recovery money every year only to have to do it again the next year. It's time to try something new.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

It would be wise to look at reducing the impact green house gases as scientists have advocated. I mean, we are spending billions in more recovery money every year only to have to do it again the next year. It's time to try something new.

It is wise to look, but there is no link, the spike in tornados is a natural occurence and linked to normal atmospheric change (La Nina) in the equatorial Pacific (last link is very good):

No Link Between Tornadoes And Climate Change: US

No link between tornadoes and climate change: US

The Tornado – Pacific Decadal Oscillation Connection « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

It is wise to look, but there is no link, the spike in tornados is a natural occurence and linked to normal atmospheric change (La Nina) in the equatorial Pacific (last link is very good):

No Link Between Tornadoes And Climate Change: US

No link between tornadoes and climate change: US

The Tornado – Pacific Decadal Oscillation Connection « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

Instead, the reasons for the spiking death tolls are more likely due to the rise in the number of mobile homes and the chance paths taken by a series of tornadoes that have happened to target populated areas.

This is awful. Notice the not so subtle fallacious deflections? The question isn't about why people are dying (we know they are dying because their homes got ****ed up along with them) but why are there so many tornadoes. The amount of dancing by the author without addressing the substance of the issue is astounding.


Time will tell if "this year is an extraordinary outlier." Oh wait, NASA said it would only get worse in 2007.

NASA - NASA Study Predicts More Severe Storms With Global Warming
Pubs.GISS: Del Genio et al. 2007: Will moist convection be stronger in a warmer climate?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

This is awful. Notice the not so subtle fallacious deflections? The question isn't about why people are dying (we know they are dying because their homes got ****ed up along with them) but why are there so many tornadoes. The amount of dancing by the author without addressing the substance of the issue is astounding.


Time will tell if "this year is an extraordinary outlier." Oh wait, NASA said it would only get worse in 2007.

NASA - NASA Study Predicts More Severe Storms With Global Warming
Pubs.GISS: Del Genio et al. 2007: Will moist convection be stronger in a warmer climate?

They also predicted more hurricans but that has not happened. You cannot pick and choose the facts and when that stops I'll listen.

TCFAQ E11) How many tropical cyclones have there been each year in the Atlantic basin? What years were the greatest and fewest seen?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

This is awful. Notice the not so subtle fallacious deflections? The question isn't about why people are dying (we know they are dying because their homes got ****ed up along with them) but why are there so many tornadoes. The amount of dancing by the author without addressing the substance of the issue is astounding.


Time will tell if "this year is an extraordinary outlier." Oh wait, NASA said it would only get worse in 2007.

NASA - NASA Study Predicts More Severe Storms With Global Warming
Pubs.GISS: Del Genio et al. 2007: Will moist convection be stronger in a warmer climate?

They also predicted more hurricans but that has not happened. You cannot pick and choose the facts and when that stops I'll listen.

TCFAQ E11) How many tropical cyclones have there been each year in the Atlantic basin? What years were the greatest and fewest seen?

[firstdown]

Lets get this back on subject.

What is Obama doing while people are dying here

Having a good ol time.



Glade he can have fun


Black Tie Dinner Yum.



Lucky they could find a truck.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

This is awful. Notice the not so subtle fallacious deflections? The question isn't about why people are dying (we know they are dying because their homes got ****ed up along with them) but why are there so many tornadoes. The amount of dancing by the author without addressing the substance of the issue is astounding.

Well the author is part of your guy's team

But seriously, read the third link, it's the best.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by saden1

It would be wise to look at reducing the impact of green house gases as scientists have advocated. I mean, we are spending billions in more recovery money every year only to have to do it again the next year. It's time to try something new.

Or you could take the approach that its natural pattern shifts and these "scientists" cant prove anything.
Funny that there were no gas emissions when the Great Lakes lost their glaciers.....

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have no idea what Obama is doing but he really needs cut his trip short and not be seen celebrating.

With all these crazy weather related disasters we really have to ask ourselves if global climate change has anything to do with them.

Agreed on your first sentence. Our midwest, America's heartland, is suffering in a massive way. Between the widespread flooding and tornadoes, it all ads up to Katrina-type devastation. Drinking $1000 wine with Cameron while comparing yourselves to Reagan and Tatcher isn't really appropriate right now, nor is toasting Guiness with Irishmen or champagne with the Queen. As far as global climate change, is anyone taking Al Gore seriously anymore?

I understand foreign policy is at a premium right now, but as POTUS, what's more important than the USA? Quit boozing and get your ass back to a devastated region in your own damn country. Especially if you're gonnna blast W. over Katrina.