Moss WANTS to be a Redskin

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

My main concern is putting one or two of the three receivers we picked in the draft and loosing them off our practie squad before getting an idea of what we might have.

I think the roster for wide receivers probably will be Santana Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Niles Paul, Terrence Austin and Aldrick Robinson.

Roydell Williams is gone. I really think that, unless Malcolm Kelly has a phenomenal offseason, he'll be gone too, possibly even if he stays healthy. Mike likes his receivers to be able to play special teams as well, and Kelly's proven to fragile to do that. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson being able to return kicks, Banks is at a disadvantage unless he proves he can make a big time impact as a receiver.

It's more nerve racking to me that Armstrong could end up being our only "veteran" receiver. That's putting a lot of pressure on all the rookies to step up and play right away, and they'll be under an intense microscope. Shanahan likes his players to be versatile, which is why guys like Niles Paul and Aldrick have a pretty solid chance of making the team, where as some of the other guys have less of a chance.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

I think the roster for wide receivers probably will be Santana Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Niles Paul, Terrence Austin and Aldrick Robinson.

Roydell Williams is gone. I really think that, unless Malcolm Kelly has a phenomenal offseason, he'll be gone too, possibly even if he stays healthy. Mike likes his receivers to be able to play special teams as well, and Kelly's proven to fragile to do that. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson being able to return kicks, Banks is at a disadvantage unless he proves he can make a big time impact as a receiver.

It's more nerve racking to me that Armstrong could end up being our only "veteran" receiver. That's putting a lot of pressure on all the rookies to step up and play right away, and they'll be under an intense microscope. Shanahan likes his players to be versatile, which is why guys like Niles Paul and Aldrick have a pretty solid chance of making the team, where as some of the other guys have less of a chance.

What about Banks though? We'll already be pushing the roster limit with 6, and it seems that sixth spot is reserved for Banks. Kelly I personally don't want but everything we've heard has said that the job could be his to loose if he's healthy, which in Kelly's case is a big if.

Either way from from what I've seen Armstrong already has that box out, jump ball thing down, and Hankerson is also suppose to provide that possession presence so why people are so high on Kelly is beyond me but the coaching staff seems to like him.

Also, tidbit thats gone overlooked is Armstrong's reaction to us drafting 3 receivers.

"When they drafted three I was like, 'What the hell?'?" said Armstrong, who caught 44 passes and averaged 19.8 yards a catch in his first season. "I was mad. I was like, 'Shoot, what are you trying to say?' Why did you draft three? Don't you have faith in me?"

But in the end that veteran factor is going to be amplified this offseason when it comes to assigning a value to players so regardless of what I think the likely outcome is Moss will stay. Personally the only thing that scares me about Moss is he reminds me of a basketball player that gets 20 PPG but has a terrible FG%.

In the case of Moss we have an 1,100 yard receiver with a 12 ypc average. Though by the same token Moss is a hard worker thats not yelling at people to get him the ball.

Anyway welcome to the forum NLC, or should I say Clu? lol.

[NC_Skins]

I know I"m going to get railed for this but I'll be glad when Moss is out of here. He's one of the last pieces of this organization that needs to go. I will NEVER forgive him for that game in Seattle. He just quit as he's done on numerous occasions. He's cost us more games than he's won for us. Sure, he gave us the Monday Night Miracle in Dallas, but he also gave us this.



That said, I'd sign him to a 1-2 year contract and move him to the slot until he can be replaced.

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

What about Banks though? We'll already be pushing the roster limit with 6, and it seems that sixth spot is reserved for Banks.

I don't see Banks making the cut. The WRs that were drafted this off-season all have return experience. If that isn't writing on the wall then I don't know what is. I"m quite positive Banks is one of those "club" guys that Willie Parker was referring to as well. Banks doesn't really bring anything to the table at the WR spot. (at least Cribbs and Hester do)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I don't see Banks making the cut. The WRs that were drafted this off-season all have return experience. If that isn't writing on the wall then I don't know what is. I"m quite positive Banks is one of those "club" guys that Willie Parker was referring to as well. Banks doesn't really bring anything to the table at the WR spot. (at least Cribbs and Hester do)

Why would we get rid of possibly the 2nd or 3rd best return man in the game? Because of some worthless thug at a nightclub that thinks it's alright to stab people?

How long has it been since we've had an elite return man? Have you guys already gotten cocky and forgotten how much of a pain it was to have ARE go left and right or having only solid but not great returns from Rock Cartwright and Ladell?

With penalties this past year he took the ball yard 5 or 6 times. I seriously doubt the team would get rid of him.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

I think the roster for wide receivers probably will be Santana Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Niles Paul, Terrence Austin and Aldrick Robinson.

Roydell Williams is gone. I really think that, unless Malcolm Kelly has a phenomenal offseason, he'll be gone too, possibly even if he stays healthy. Mike likes his receivers to be able to play special teams as well, and Kelly's proven to fragile to do that. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson being able to return kicks, Banks is at a disadvantage unless he proves he can make a big time impact as a receiver.

It's more nerve racking to me that Armstrong could end up being our only "veteran" receiver. That's putting a lot of pressure on all the rookies to step up and play right away, and they'll be under an intense microscope. Shanahan likes his players to be versatile, which is why guys like Niles Paul and Aldrick have a pretty solid chance of making the team, where as some of the other guys have less of a chance.

I agree with you. I would like to see the guys we drafted this year to make the team as they are more physical than Austin or Banks and Kelly. Keep Santana and sign him to a two year deal, then he can retire a Skin.