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[ArringtonRules]

I totally agree with you. This was a very bad pick. Gibbs need to realise that this is 2005 and not 1989 when he did not have a salary cap and could put away players on the bench. we are already paying for one of his mistakes which kept us from signing Smoot and Pierce and now we have again paid a huge price for yet another QB choice of his. I sure do hope he knows what he is doing, 'cause it all seems very dysfunctional from here

Originally Posted by 56FAN

with all due respect to mr cambell and gibbs that pick was not what we needed, we needed either te miller that went to pittsburg or wr r white or vincent or brown from georgia. not a qb. i just don't get it. i am glad we got rogers instead of m williams.i do however think we got some ggod picks in the later rounds.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by ArringtonRules

I totally agree with you. This was a very bad pick. Gibbs need to realise that this is 2005 and not 1989 when he did not have a salary cap and could put away players on the bench. we are already paying for one of his mistakes which kept us from signing Smoot and Pierce and now we have again paid a huge price for yet another QB choice of his. I sure do hope he knows what he is doing, 'cause it all seems very dysfunctional from here

I think what he's realizing is that in this day and age, players will jet on you in a heartbeat, loyalty isn't what it used to be like in his first run. We were lucky with Pierce and Smoot in a way, we have capable LBs to take over in the middle and we have Harris and now Rogers to take over at corner.

Ramsey is no guarantee to re-sign with the Skins when his deal is up, and I think Gibbs learned this hard lesson with Pierce and Smoot. I think the last thing Gibbs wants is to have to start completely over at QB in 2 years. Brunell isn't even going to be here then, and does anyone seriously want Hasselbeck as the #1?

Campbell has 2 years to develop as our insurance policy, and who knows, maybe he ends up beating out Ramsey at some point.

The Times has a great article that articulates this reasoning.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think what he's realizing is that in this day and age, players will jet on you in a heartbeat, loyalty isn't what it used to be like in his first run. We were lucky with Pierce and Smoot in a way, we have capable LBs to take over in the middle and we have Harris and now Rogers to take over at corner.

Ramsey is no guarantee to re-sign with the Skins when his deal is up, and I think Gibbs learned this hard lesson with Pierce and Smoot. I think the last thing Gibbs wants is to have to start completely over at QB in 2 years. Brunell isn't even going to be here then, and does anyone seriously want Hasselbeck as the #1?

Campbell has 2 years to develop as our insurance policy, and who knows, maybe he ends up beating out Ramsey at some point.

The Times has a great article that articulates this reasoning.

http://washtimes.com/sports/20050426-121046-3165r.htm

[memphisskin]

Maybe Gibbs was nervous that Ramsey might walk after 2006, but walk where? Why can't we sign Ramsey to a long term deal now while his price is low? But with all the other glaring needs offensively, a third string qb who none of us really wants to see play in the next two years is not the answer.

As for drafting Rogers, I'm really torn. Obviously we needed a young corner with Smoot leaving the year after Champ, but the one thing that Gregg Williams's defense showed me was that he could get unheralded players to produce. I don't doubt that Rogers will be a good fit for our defense, he already reminds me a lot of Springs, but our defense obviously was not the problem last year.

I'm disappointed we didn't draft Mike Williams, or any receiver for that matter. But I do like Gibbs getting the big back for short yardage situations, and maybe we need more size at fullback in order to get our running game going. I do know that we didn't need a young qb, especially with Hasselbeck ALREADY ON THE TEAM!! I wasn't upset last year when we passed over Winslow for Taylor because safety has been a need area since Alvin Walton left, but to give up next year's #1 plus two more picks for a kid that we hope won't have to play for two years is not something that 6-10 teams normally do.

I think the Campbell pick was ok, but he will have to be better than Ramsey in order for it to make sense.

[ChounsMan]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Maybe Gibbs was nervous that Ramsey might walk after 2006, but walk where? Why can't we sign Ramsey to a long term deal now while his price is low? But with all the other glaring needs offensively, a third string qb who none of us really wants to see play in the next two years is not the answer.

As for drafting Rogers, I'm really torn. Obviously we needed a young corner with Smoot leaving the year after Champ, but the one thing that Gregg Williams's defense showed me was that he could get unheralded players to produce. I don't doubt that Rogers will be a good fit for our defense, he already reminds me a lot of Springs, but our defense obviously was not the problem last year.

I'm disappointed we didn't draft Mike Williams, or any receiver for that matter. But I do like Gibbs getting the big back for short yardage situations, and maybe we need more size at fullback in order to get our running game going. I do know that we didn't need a young qb, especially with Hasselbeck ALREADY ON THE TEAM!! I wasn't upset last year when we passed over Winslow for Taylor because safety has been a need area since Alvin Walton left, but to give up next year's #1 plus two more picks for a kid that we hope won't have to play for two years is not something that 6-10 teams normally do.

I think the Campbell pick was ok, but he will have to be better than Ramsey in order for it to make sense.

If you think Campbell is not going to start in '06 you maybe surprised then when he wins the job in training camp.

Scenerio:
What if Campbell shines in camp this season & noticeably performs above Ramsey, are you going to support the decision to start Campbell..?

Lets not forget offensive players are leaving not because Gibbs calls are to conservative, but the talent at the signal caller position is in question. If you can remember Gibbs in his hayday he threw the deep ball with explosive execution. Ramsey has not shown me he can place a deep ball where he wants, nevermind a perfect fade route pass as well.

Campbell will most likely be the starter in '06.