Where will McNabb land?

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well this would make sense, except that our coach has a big ego so that's not going to work out. The Shanahans want McNabb out of here, and McNabb wants out of here.

My hope is that the team doesn't make a stupid mistake like the McNabb trade again.

What does Shanahan's ego have to do with it?

I mean, Mike Shanahan bought McNabb here despite his offensive coordinator not thinking he was a good fit. If anything, it was Shanny's ego, or more likely, his history of developing quarterbacks, that bought McNabb here.

Getting rid of McNabb is more admitting a mistake and admitting the trade was a failure than it has to do with any sort of ego. I mean, there's kinda two sides in the whole mess, and McNabb had a big part in it as well. His reluctance to meet Kyle halfway, the lack of good practice habits, the inability to execute the offense...I mean, both sides screwed up.

But I don't think Mike Shanahan is letting McNabb go because of his ego. I think the famed Mike Shanahan ego is largely made up. I can't imagine him having anywhere near the level of success he's had winning two Super Bowls and winning as many games as he did without having elite quarterbacks after Elway left if he was an egomaniac.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

What does Shanahan's ego have to do with it?

I mean, Mike Shanahan bought McNabb here despite his offensive coordinator not thinking he was a good fit. If anything, it was Shanny's ego, or more likely, his history of developing quarterbacks, that bought McNabb here.

Getting rid of McNabb is more admitting a mistake and admitting the trade was a failure than it has to do with any sort of ego. I mean, there's kinda two sides in the whole mess, and McNabb had a big part in it as well. His reluctance to meet Kyle halfway, the lack of good practice habits, the inability to execute the offense...I mean, both sides screwed up.

But I don't think Mike Shanahan is letting McNabb go because of his ego. I think the famed Mike Shanahan ego is largely made up. I can't imagine him having anywhere near the level of success he's had winning two Super Bowls and winning as many games as he did without having elite quarterbacks after Elway left if he was an egomaniac.

I do think Shanny has a big ego, but you are right, in this situation it wasn't much ego. Both sides would be unwilling to give it a try, which is a shame given how much we gave up for McNabb. I just don't want the FO to make a major screw up like this again.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

What does Shanahan's ego have to do with it?

I mean, Mike Shanahan bought McNabb here despite his offensive coordinator not thinking he was a good fit. If anything, it was Shanny's ego, or more likely, his history of developing quarterbacks, that bought McNabb here.

Getting rid of McNabb is more admitting a mistake and admitting the trade was a failure than it has to do with any sort of ego. I mean, there's kinda two sides in the whole mess, and McNabb had a big part in it as well. His reluctance to meet Kyle halfway, the lack of good practice habits, the inability to execute the offense...I mean, both sides screwed up.

But I don't think Mike Shanahan is letting McNabb go because of his ego. I think the famed Mike Shanahan ego is largely made up. I can't imagine him having anywhere near the level of success he's had winning two Super Bowls and winning as many games as he did without having elite quarterbacks after Elway left if he was an egomaniac.

I think in fairness to the Shanny's we have to consider what may have transpired before they even stepped into Redskins Park. Bruce Allen was on the job before them & we don't know what his marching orders were from the Danny. I wonder if the Danny said something like, 'I'm not going to micro-manage but I want you to make a move so we can try to win now.'

So, the talks to get McNabb might've been underway before the Shannys came in & it might've been more difficult than we know for them to reverse that process.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I think in fairness to the Shanny's we have to consider what may have transpired before they even stepped into Redskins Park. Bruce Allen was on the job before them & we don't know what his marching orders were from the Danny. I wonder if the Danny said something like, 'I'm not going to micro-manage but I want you to make a move so we can try to win now.'

So, the talks to get McNabb might've been underway before the Shannys came in & it might've been more difficult than we know for them to reverse that process.

I've brought this up before, but it was Allen who initiated the idea. He was in some meeting, forget when exactly, but I think it may have been during Super Bowl week. And when I say meeting it was nothing formal, just some get together with NFL execs. And he came back to Shanahan and basically said "Look, I think we could have a real shot at getting Donovan McNabb, would you be interested?" That's how it all started

If I recall correctly, McNabb's contract makes it a lot easier to let him go now. Sucks what happened but time to rip the band-aid right off

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've brought this up before, but it was Allen who initiated the idea. He was in some meeting, forget when exactly, but I think it may have been during Super Bowl week. And when I say meeting it was nothing formal, just some get together with NFL execs. And he came back to Shanahan and basically said "Look, I think we could have a real shot at getting Donovan McNabb, would you be interested?" That's how it all started

If I recall correctly, McNabb's contract makes it a lot easier to let him go now. Sucks what happened but time to rip the band-aid right off

Ok, so Mike was on board. If that's the case it does sound like there was either a serious disconnect between he & his son, Kyle came on board too late to change the decision, or Mike said McNabb is our qb & if you want this job you'll have to deal w/that.

I can't remember when Kyle was hired, but to my point - would Kyle have ever consulted on McNabb? Kyle may have been stuck w/him the way that most coaches are stuck w/players on a roster when they take over. Just because he's the coaches son doesn't mean he didn't have to deal w/personel that he didn't want.

I'm not making excuses for any of them, just pointing out that in any organization decisions are often made w/out consensus of all the top brass. We've seen here that when a coordinator is against bringing a player in, it usually doesn't work out, e.g. J. Taylor & AH w/Blache. Hopefully this will just be a good learning experience for the shannys that they can build on.