Active HOF candidates

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Interesting thread. Looking at your list, off the top of my head I'd cut it back a bit. Here's my changes:

Slam Dunks (barring no injuries) (in no particular order)
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
8. Julius Peppers
9. Demarcus Ware
10. Rey Lewis
15. Randy Moss
16. Terell Owens
17. Charles Woodson
18. Drew Brees
19. Ed Reed
20. Troy Polamalu
22. Ladanian Tomlinson
28. Champ Bailey
29. Dwight Freeney
30. Tony Gonzolez
31. Antonio Gates

Probables(79-50%) (in no particular order)
27. Richard Seymour - probably, but it will take at least 5 years for him to get in.
5. Aaron Rodgers - must continue to produce for another 3-4 years at current level or win another SB.
6. Larry Fitzgerald - too early, needs to get back to Pro Bowl production level in either AZ or elsewhere.
1. Ndamakung Suh
6. Steve Hutchinson
7. Jeff Saturday
10. Vince Wilfork
12. James Harrison

Possibles -
3. Ben Roethlessberger - outside of the off-field stuff, which will be considered by voters, the guy has only been to the PB once. He didn't play well in the SB win over Seattle. He's definitely got more to put on the resume before he moves from Very Good to HoF.
32. Calvin Johnson - too early, needs 4-6 more years producing at Pro Bowl level
23. Jake Long - way too early, he need several years producing at Pro Bowl level. 50/50
24. Joe Thomas - see above 50/50
25. Nick Mangold - 50/50
26. Patrick Willis - see Jake Long
11. Brian Urlacher - borderline, needs to win something or he's 50/50
12. Adrian Peterson - must stay in run oriented offense and stay healthy 50/50
13. Darell Revis - another 4-5 years at current level, would help to win something
14. Nnamdi Asomuagh - needs to continue production at PB level for 3 more years, better than 50/50 if so.
4. Phillip Rivers - unless he wins a SB, he moves into the 50/50 category
7. Andre Johnson - too early, needs 5-6 more years producing at Pro Bowl level
3. Haloti Ngata
5. Chris Johnson - too early, needs 4-6 more Pro Bowl seasons
8. Reggie Wayne - unless Indy wins another SB, doubtful both Harrison and Wayne get in.
9. Clay Matthews - too early
11. Mario Williams - needs to continue at a PB level for several more seasons or win SB.
13. Jared Allen - 50/50
16. Logan Mankins - needs another 3-4 PB level years.

Doubtful:

5. Terell Suggs - He's a very good player, but it's not the Hall of Very Good.
2. Sam Bradford - way too early, guy has to win something or be a consistent Pro Bowler for several seasons. He's doubtful.
4. Devin Hester - doubtful, nice speed but return specialists don't make the HoF.
14. Jason Witten - needs to be part of SB win
7. Hines Ward - doubtful, not a dominant WR
10. Osi Umenyoura - doubtful
11. Justin Tuck - doubful
15. Tiki Barber - No
16. Rhonde Barber - maybe by Veteran committee
15. Eric Berry - too early
19. London Fletcher - he's under-appreciated now, maybe by veterans
23. Pat Williams - doubtful
24. Kevin Williams - doubtful
27. Chad Ochocinco - No, the guy disappears a lot.
28. Eli Manning - needs at least 1 more SB and a few PB years
33. Asante Samuel - 50/50, the dropped INT in the SB hurt.
35. Lance Briggs - doubtful
36. Donovan McNabb - If he doesn't rebound and have another good year or two, I'd say he's very borderline and maybe a veteran selection.
40. Maurice Jones-Drew - gotta win SB or have a bunch more PB years.
41. Steven Jackson - see above
42. John Abraham - winning SB would help, otherwise probably not.

Retired:
21. Darren Woodson - retired

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Interesting thread. Looking at your list, off the top of my head I'd cut it back a bit. Here's my changes:

Slam Dunks (barring no injuries) (in no particular order)
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
8. Julius Peppers
9. Demarcus Ware
10. Rey Lewis
15. Randy Moss
16. Terell Owens
17. Charles Woodson
18. Drew Brees
19. Ed Reed
20. Troy Polamalu
22. Ladanian Tomlinson
28. Champ Bailey
29. Dwight Freeney
30. Tony Gonzolez
31. Antonio Gates

Probables(79-50%) (in no particular order)
27. Richard Seymour - probably, but it will take at least 5 years for him to get in.
5. Aaron Rodgers - must continue to produce for another 3-4 years at current level or win another SB.
6. Larry Fitzgerald - too early, needs to get back to Pro Bowl production level in either AZ or elsewhere.
1. Ndamakung Suh
6. Steve Hutchinson
7. Jeff Saturday
10. Vince Wilfork
12. James Harrison

Possibles -
3. Ben Roethlessberger - outside of the off-field stuff, which will be considered by voters, the guy has only been to the PB once. He didn't play well in the SB win over Seattle. He's definitely got more to put on the resume before he moves from Very Good to HoF.
32. Calvin Johnson - too early, needs 4-6 more years producing at Pro Bowl level
23. Jake Long - way too early, he need several years producing at Pro Bowl level. 50/50
24. Joe Thomas - see above 50/50
25. Nick Mangold - 50/50
26. Patrick Willis - see Jake Long
11. Brian Urlacher - borderline, needs to win something or he's 50/50
12. Adrian Peterson - must stay in run oriented offense and stay healthy 50/50
13. Darell Revis - another 4-5 years at current level, would help to win something
14. Nnamdi Asomuagh - needs to continue production at PB level for 3 more years, better than 50/50 if so.
4. Phillip Rivers - unless he wins a SB, he moves into the 50/50 category
7. Andre Johnson - too early, needs 5-6 more years producing at Pro Bowl level
3. Haloti Ngata
5. Chris Johnson - too early, needs 4-6 more Pro Bowl seasons
8. Reggie Wayne - unless Indy wins another SB, doubtful both Harrison and Wayne get in.
9. Clay Matthews - too early
11. Mario Williams - needs to continue at a PB level for several more seasons or win SB.
13. Jared Allen - 50/50
16. Logan Mankins - needs another 3-4 PB level years.

Doubtful:

5. Terell Suggs - He's a very good player, but it's not the Hall of Very Good.
2. Sam Bradford - way too early, guy has to win something or be a consistent Pro Bowler for several seasons. He's doubtful.
4. Devin Hester - doubtful, nice speed but return specialists don't make the HoF.
14. Jason Witten - needs to be part of SB win
7. Hines Ward - doubtful, not a dominant WR
10. Osi Umenyoura - doubtful
11. Justin Tuck - doubful
15. Tiki Barber - No
16. Rhonde Barber - maybe by Veteran committee
15. Eric Berry - too early
19. London Fletcher - he's under-appreciated now, maybe by veterans
23. Pat Williams - doubtful
24. Kevin Williams - doubtful
27. Chad Ochocinco - No, the guy disappears a lot.
28. Eli Manning - needs at least 1 more SB and a few PB years
33. Asante Samuel - 50/50, the dropped INT in the SB hurt.
35. Lance Briggs - doubtful
36. Donovan McNabb - If he doesn't rebound and have another good year or two, I'd say he's very borderline and maybe a veteran selection.
40. Maurice Jones-Drew - gotta win SB or have a bunch more PB years.
41. Steven Jackson - see above
42. John Abraham - winning SB would help, otherwise probably not.

Retired:
21. Darren Woodson - retired

For the record, I meant to say darren sharper. He could very realistically retire as the leader in interceptions returned for touchdowns (he is one away for being tied for first).

By my standards I would only put the players in my slam dunk list and only most of the players on my probable list in the HOF if I were voting. But I'm not, and the statistics (that I explained in my previous post), say that roughly 65 players that are currently playing will at one time or another be inducted in the hall. Most of them will get in many years down the road after they retire. We say its the hall of the great, not the very good, but being consistently very good has proven to guys in. Its easier to say they were great 25 years after they retired when people don't remember as well, but in reality, alot of the "very good" will get in.