Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hey 30, do you mean Jared Gaither in your sig? Or is there someone named Jeremy Gaither that I don't know about.

Clabo would be something else, not sure he leaves though

Starting to hear Harris may not be so definite here, but as I've mentioned in the past, Jammal Brown is likely to return so maybe no room for both?

LoL, yeah it should be Jared.
Clabo? If we're supposedly looking at Santonio Holmes and Cullen Jenkins then I figure why not make a run at one of the better players at position where we're in need of an upgrade.

I'm glad to hear that about Harris I think he's over rated.
Yeah, he has scheme familiarity and yes he's young but he's also injury prone.

I can't imagine why we would want Jammal Brown over some of the other FA OTs.
He's older; he's essentially playing out of position and may want a good amount of money.
I think we should be able to do better then a RT who was barely more effective then Stephon Heyer.

Heck, I would be okay with a journeyman brought in to compete with Clint Oldenburg as I would be with Jammal Brown and Ryan Harris.

Journeymen: Basically looking for the FA versions of our own Monty/Licht guys that got a chance to play and played well enough to garner a look as a starter:
Pat McQuistan
Ryan Cook

Longshots to bring in to compete for the job:
Rashad Butler (scheme familiarity w/ Kyle in Houston but only 4 career starts)

[SmootSmack]

Hate to make you post again but do me a favor and put that in the new 2011 Redskins FA thread, fits better there. I'll have some reaction

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Beck went to the Ravens mid-training camp. He was behind Troy Smith who was gonna be the starter and behind Joe Flacco the QB of the future both of which were selected by the Ravens front office.
Then they had the chance to get a proven starter like Mark Bulger.
Beck was the odd man out caught in a numbers game.

It doesn't mean he can or can't play just that he wasn't in a situation where he was gonna get a real shot.

There are a finite number practice reps/snaps in an NFL practice and the lions share goes to the starter then the QB of the future or back-up then if there are scraps then the 3rd string QB can get a look running his teams offense.
Otherwise they're running the scout team w/ a simplified version of the teams next opponent.

If you can't compete and make one of three spots, that tells me the guy sucks. Bring in the oft injured Bulger over a young kid tells me all I need to know. A FA QB is in the works.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Beck went to the Ravens mid-training camp. He was behind Troy Smith who was gonna be the starter and behind Joe Flacco the QB of the future both of which were selected by the Ravens front office.
Then they had the chance to get a proven starter like Mark Bulger.
Beck was the odd man out caught in a numbers game.

It doesn't mean he can or can't play just that he wasn't in a situation where he was gonna get a real shot.

There are a finite number practice reps/snaps in an NFL practice and the lions share goes to the starter then the QB of the future or back-up then if there are scraps then the 3rd string QB can get a look running his teams offense.
Otherwise they're running the scout team w/ a simplified version of the teams next opponent.

Jim Plunkett was considered a bust and could not find his stride in the NFL until the Raiders picked him up. After that, two Super Bowl wins, one against our beloved Redskins.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No kidding but if he had any ability don't you think they would've held on to him as a back up?

Get up to speed on what John Beck has been saying from day one. He wanted to find the right situation where he could become a starting QB again. He was not going to have that opportunity in Baltimore and probably made his feelings known to management.....thus he talked his way out.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Get up to speed on what John Beck has been saying from day one. He wanted to find the right situation where he could become a starting QB again. He was not going to have that opportunity in Baltimore and probably made his feelings known to management.....thus he talked his way out.

Troy Smith is a preseason beast too. Not a long-term answer as a starter, but a good sparkplug of a backup.

[tryfuhl]

Junkies put Beck on blast today

EBJunkies Eric Bickel
Bill Parcells and Ozzie Newsome 2 of the most accomplished personnel guys in the league both punted John Beck. Your honor, I rest my case.


EBJunkies Eric Bickel
Former teammate of Beck: "No touch on short passes. Not that great. No names please....He is no good. Great guy though."

EBJunkies Eric Bickel
Alright... we just CRUSHED John Beck for 2 hours for no reason. LOL.... literally for sport. Now I feel bad. ugh.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Get up to speed on what John Beck has been saying from day one. He wanted to find the right situation where he could become a starting QB again. He was not going to have that opportunity in Baltimore and probably made his feelings known to management.....thus he talked his way out.

It doesn't matter what his situation is. He doesn't have ability to be a legit NFL starter or maybe even a back up. Hope I'm wrong but from everything that I've seen from this guy says he doesn't look the part.

[MTK]

Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks right now except for Shanahan, and he thinks Beck looks the part. We'll know soon enough who's right or wrong.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It doesn't matter what his situation is. He doesn't have ability to be a legit NFL starter or maybe even a back up. Hope I'm wrong but from everything that I've seen from this guy says he doesn't look the part.

There are probably few people who actually believe John Beck will prove to be the long term answer at the QB for the Redskins, neither have I heard anyone suggest it. However, all signs point to there being a competition for the position and he will be included in that competition (at least for this season.) I'll be content to let the coaches decide whether he's legit or not.

[diehardskin2982]

I don't have a problem with going to Beck but have a back-up plan someone like VY with a third qb in Pat Delvin.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Junkies put Beck on blast today

EBJunkies Eric Bickel
Bill Parcells and Ozzie Newsome 2 of the most accomplished personnel guys in the league both punted John Beck. Your honor, I rest my case.


EBJunkies Eric Bickel
Former teammate of Beck: "No touch on short passes. Not that great. No names please....He is no good. Great guy though."

EBJunkies Eric Bickel
Alright... we just CRUSHED John Beck for 2 hours for no reason. LOL.... literally for sport. Now I feel bad. ugh.

I'll take the word of AA, Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, Leonard Hankerson over a 'former teammate' that won't give his name.

Who the heck are the junkies anyway?

An unnamed source told me on good authority that the junkies unnamed sources are full of it.

[Paintrain]

Reading on SI.com last night and it said Kyle covets Matt Leinart who was in Houston last year in the same system he runs. I'll be ok with Beck, Rex, Leinart going into camp. We aren't spending big money on a FA QB so if that's what we roll with let's make the best of it.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Reading on SI.com last night and it said Kyle covets Matt Leinart who was in Houston last year in the same system he runs. I'll be ok with Beck, Rex, Leinart going into camp. We aren't spending big money on a FA QB so if that's what we roll with let's make the best of it.

Agreed. What other sensible options do they have?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks right now except for Shanahan, and he thinks Beck looks the part. We'll know soon enough who's right or wrong.

ding ding ding we have a winner! 45 pages on beck as a starter???? really??? god damn this lockout better be over this weekend.