How far can Beck take us?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think this year with so many new pieces in place, we might see them struggle early on. Could be one of those years where the record isn't a good indicator of how good the team really is. 7-9 maybe?

I actually wish the Redskins would have done last offseason, what they are doing this offseason. But yeah, I think we are building for the future. None of the signings we've had could be interpreted as "win-now".

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I actually wish the Redskins would have done last offseason, what they are doing this offseason. But yeah, I think we are building for the future. None of the signings we've had could be interpreted as "win-now".

Yeah, but last year they didn't have the cap room they do now, and free agency was pretty limited. And obviously circumstances changed when DM didn't work out. They did do a good job at cleaning things up cap wise for this year knowing they could really make a splash at building a young core for the future.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I actually wish the Redskins would have done last offseason, what they are doing this offseason. But yeah, I think we are building for the future. None of the signings we've had could be interpreted as "win-now".

If they were TRULY building for the future then they would not have signed all these guys. They would've drafted a bunch of guys, which they did, and then let them play, like Tampa Bay did last year. They started two rookies at wr and found a stud RB off the waiver wire. Now those guys have game experience. Armstrong gets game experience and then has to fight for a job cause Shanahan likes a career journeymen Jabar Gaffney. It's like we always try and get other peoples players right when they're entering their prime, or past their prime instead of drafting our own guys, letting them play together and let them enter their primes together. I'll say it again, bringing in a lot of other teams players doesn't work. The good teams get free agents here and there to mix in with establised core players.

I like some of the guys they signed, but I question whether a guy like Cofield will fit in here. Hopefully he will.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If they were TRULY building for the future then they would not have signed all these guys. They would've drafted a bunch of guys, which they did, and then let them play, like Tampa Bay did last year. They started two rookies at wr and found a stud RB off the waiver wire. Now those guys have game experience. Armstrong gets game experience and then has to fight for a job cause Shanahan likes a career journeymen Jabar Gaffney. It's like we always try and get other peoples players right when they're entering their prime, or past their prime instead of drafting our own guys, letting them play together and let them enter their primes together. I'll say it again, bringing in a lot of other teams players doesn't work. The good teams get free agents here and there to mix in with establised core players.

I like some of the guys they signed, but I question whether a guy like Cofield will fit in here. Hopefully he will.

So I'll ask again. How do you plan on filling the roster?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So I'll ask again. How do you plan on filling the roster?

Get a whole bunch of 18 year old off the street. LOL.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If they were TRULY building for the future then they would not have signed all these guys. They would've drafted a bunch of guys, which they did, and then let them play, like Tampa Bay did last year. They started two rookies at wr and found a stud RB off the waiver wire. Now those guys have game experience. Armstrong gets game experience and then has to fight for a job cause Shanahan likes a career journeymen Jabar Gaffney. It's like we always try and get other peoples players right when they're entering their prime, or past their prime instead of drafting our own guys, letting them play together and let them enter their primes together. I'll say it again, bringing in a lot of other teams players doesn't work. The good teams get free agents here and there to mix in with establised core players.

I like some of the guys they signed, but I question whether a guy like Cofield will fit in here. Hopefully he will.

How can they draft a bunch of guys when they dont have any draft picks or much talent to trade for picks?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

How can they draft a bunch of guys when they dont have any draft picks or much talent to trade for picks?

??? We have 12 drafted rookies in camp right now...

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

??? We have 12 drafted rookies in camp right now...

You are correct, I forgot they had so many pick this year because for the most part they were all after the 4th round.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

You are correct, I forgot they had so many pick this year because for the most part they were all after the 4th round.

Yeah well we did have a 1st, 2nd, and 4th as well. Plus we went into the draft with what 5 picks? And then leveraged that into 12. Pretty good. So you can't really say they aren't placing a high value on the draft.

Bottom line is you need a healthy mix of draft picks and free agents, and I think you're seeing that. Rome wasn't built in a day. I think a philosophical change in team building is pretty evident at Redskins Park these days.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah well we did have a 1st, 2nd, and 4th as well. Plus we went into the draft with what 5 picks? And then leveraged that into 12. Pretty good. So you can't really say they aren't placing a high value on the draft.

Bottom line is you need a healthy mix of draft picks and free agents, and I think you're seeing that. Rome wasn't built in a day. I think a philosophical change in team building is pretty evident at Redskins Park these days.

We had a 3rd too which was Hankerson

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah well we did have a 1st, 2nd, and 4th as well. Plus we went into the draft with what 5 picks? And then leveraged that into 12. Pretty good. So you can't really say they aren't placing a high value on the draft.

Bottom line is you need a healthy mix of draft picks and free agents, and I think you're seeing that. Rome wasn't built in a day. I think a philosophical change in team building is pretty evident at Redskins Park these days.

You are right, when you look at successful teams they have the mix you point out. They are placing that value on the draft for now but things can change pretty fast at Redskins Park. I think if the Skins could ever get some stability at head coach and have a system (both in game plans and player acquisition philosophy) in place for more than 2 or 3 years it would do wonders for the team's onfield performance. Successful teams just dont change coaches/philosophies as often as the Skins do.