Bye Bye Barrow?

SmootSmack · 05-03-2005, 12:24 AM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/sport...2615-2901r.htm

"Meanwhile, Williams said he's eyeing "four or five" candidates to start at middle linebacker, and rehabilitating veteran Mike Barrow wasn't among them. Lemar Marshall, Brandon Barnes, Brian Allen, fifth-round draft pick Robert McCune and sixth-rounder Jared Newberry appear to be in the mix. "

So does that mean Barrow is a lock to be gone June 1? That must mean his rehab is going the way it should be right? I mean, are these other guys really that good to just let Barrow go?

PSUskinsfan11 · 05-03-2005, 12:40 AM

Damn no love for Clifton Smith either

Daseal · 05-03-2005, 02:31 AM

Not a big deal, let's get a LB of the future ready to go in McCune or Barnes!

Redskins8588 · 05-03-2005, 03:32 AM

How will this affect our cap?

Drift Reality · 05-03-2005, 08:09 AM

Barrow got a 2.5 million dollar signing bonus in a 6 year deal.

So, .4 million was paid to him last year, and if we cut him after June 1st, then I believe we take a .4 million dollar hit on the 2005 cap, and about a 1.7 million dollar hit on the 2006 cap.

That's not so bad I think.

RedskinsJunkie · 05-03-2005, 08:18 AM

I love the McCunes pick. I hope he is ready and given his age I think he might be ready faster than most think. I have read a couple of things saying the Gibbs really likes him... I agree with Daseal, Let's get younger and faster on D, with LaVar back in there I think McCunes will be fine...

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-03-2005, 08:22 AM

Let's not forget about Marshall either. We have all SORTS of depth at linebacker.

SKINSnCANES · 05-03-2005, 08:32 AM

I had a feeling when they drafted those two LBs that Barrow wasnt going to be in the mix. Either way he only had a year or two left so might as well groom a new guy anyways. I trust Williams to get the most out of those four.

uhohjimoh · 05-03-2005, 08:37 AM

But is Mcune or Barnes going to be mentally ready to play the position. Part of what made our D so good last year was pierce's mental game..getting people into position, relaying the plays, etc etc. middle linebacker is a really hard position to play.

Grayacre · 05-03-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by uhohjimoh

But is Mcune or Barnes going to be mentally ready to play the position. Part of what made our D so good last year was pierce's mental game..getting people into position, relaying the plays, etc etc. middle linebacker is a really hard position to play.

You hit the nail right on the head, uhohjimoh. I have no doubt that the new guys will be good players. Still, I'm concerned that the team's decision to suddenly cry "fiscal responsibility" and let Pierce go will prove to be perhaps the most imprudent move of this off-season. No matter what type of players the new guys become, it seems unrealistic to expect them to fill Pierce's shoes in the mental aspects that uhohjimoh identified.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-03-2005, 08:47 AM

Yeah, I think that maybe Marshall could share reps with McCune. Williams said it in his interview: he doesn't just insert rookies into the starting lineup immediately. I'd love to see Marshall and McCune (if he does well in preseason) share some of the load.

offiss · 05-03-2005, 05:10 PM

I don't know, this kid Newberry doesn't look to promising, Williams likes speed at LB, and this kid runs a 4.72 not that fast, especially when we keep hearing that he is fast, he look's a little awkward as well.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...01&videoID=652

uhohjimoh · 05-03-2005, 08:59 AM

i would love to see mcune step it up...has anyone seen the clips on this guy? He is straight scary looking..the type of dude i want taking down bledsoe and dmac.

Schneed10 · 05-03-2005, 09:05 AM

Barrow is scheduled to count $2.157 million against our 2005 cap, and $3.417 million against our 2006 cap.

Cutting him after June 1 would reduce his 2005 cap figure from $2.157 million to $0.417 million, a cap savings of $1.74 million. By doing that, we would have to carry dead-cap money for him in 2006, totalling $1.688 million. That $1.688 million would represent a $1.479 million savings from his scheduled figure of $3.417 million in 2006. Of course, we would still have to pay a player to fill the roster spot he vacated, probably a young guy.

Given our current cap situation with how bad we need cap space (especially since it looks like Gardner is sticking around), I'd call it a 99.9% chance Barrow is a goner on June 1.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-03-2005, 09:27 AM

I'm OK with that since we have the addition of a few young LBs. I'd much rather have that money now to sign other players and have another roster spot open for our rookies.

05-03-2005, 12:24 AM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Bye Bye Barrow? http://www.washingtontimes.com/sport...2615-2901r.htm "Meanwhile, Williams said he's eyeing "four or five" candidates to start at middle linebacker, and rehabilitating veteran Mike Barrow wasn't among them. Lemar Marshall, Brandon Barnes, Brian Allen, fifth-round draft pick Robert McCune and sixth-rounder Jared Newberry appear to be in the mix. " So does that mean Barrow is a lock to be gone June 1? That must mean his rehab is going the way it should be right? I mean, are these other guys really that good to just let Barrow go? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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05-03-2005, 08:09 AM	#5
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? Barrow got a 2.5 million dollar signing bonus in a 6 year deal. So, .4 million was paid to him last year, and if we cut him after June 1st, then I believe we take a .4 million dollar hit on the 2005 cap, and about a 1.7 million dollar hit on the 2006 cap. That's not so bad I think. __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

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RedskinsJunkie Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 50 Posts: 128	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I love the McCunes pick. I hope he is ready and given his age I think he might be ready faster than most think. I have read a couple of things saying the Gibbs really likes him... I agree with Daseal, Let's get younger and faster on D, with LaVar back in there I think McCunes will be fine... __________________ Jimoh--- OH NO!

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TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? Let's not forget about Marshall either. We have all SORTS of depth at linebacker. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I had a feeling when they drafted those two LBs that Barrow wasnt going to be in the mix. Either way he only had a year or two left so might as well groom a new guy anyways. I trust Williams to get the most out of those four. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-03-2005, 08:37 AM	#9
uhohjimoh Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 41	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? But is Mcune or Barnes going to be mentally ready to play the position. Part of what made our D so good last year was pierce's mental game..getting people into position, relaying the plays, etc etc. middle linebacker is a really hard position to play.

05-03-2005, 08:47 AM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? Yeah, I think that maybe Marshall could share reps with McCune. Williams said it in his interview: he doesn't just insert rookies into the starting lineup immediately. I'd love to see Marshall and McCune (if he does well in preseason) share some of the load. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-03-2005, 05:10 PM	#12
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I don't know, this kid Newberry doesn't look to promising, Williams likes speed at LB, and this kid runs a 4.72 not that fast, especially when we keep hearing that he is fast, he look's a little awkward as well. http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...01&videoID=652

05-03-2005, 08:59 AM	#13
uhohjimoh Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 41	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? i would love to see mcune step it up...has anyone seen the clips on this guy? He is straight scary looking..the type of dude i want taking down bledsoe and dmac.

05-03-2005, 09:05 AM	#14
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? Barrow is scheduled to count $2.157 million against our 2005 cap, and $3.417 million against our 2006 cap. Cutting him after June 1 would reduce his 2005 cap figure from $2.157 million to $0.417 million, a cap savings of $1.74 million. By doing that, we would have to carry dead-cap money for him in 2006, totalling $1.688 million. That $1.688 million would represent a $1.479 million savings from his scheduled figure of $3.417 million in 2006. Of course, we would still have to pay a player to fill the roster spot he vacated, probably a young guy. Given our current cap situation with how bad we need cap space (especially since it looks like Gardner is sticking around), I'd call it a 99.9% chance Barrow is a goner on June 1.

05-03-2005, 09:27 AM	#15
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I'm OK with that since we have the addition of a few young LBs. I'd much rather have that money now to sign other players and have another roster spot open for our rookies. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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