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[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Probably the fact that in your eyes (mine too, btw) Obama is done. He's saden's golden boy, for some odd reason.

Funny thing is I've generally liked just about everything Obama has done so far in his first term. He's recognized the need to move toward the center - because liberal politics don't work in economically tough times. He has shown himself to be flexible and reasonable.

But our country will not see it that way. Our populace is not bright enough to see beyond the fact that he is the man presiding over our first downgrade.

I'd wait to see who the GOP nominates to run against him before I placed any bets. But this definitely hits Obama and boosts the Tea Party's appeal. What happens when you don't control spending? Your credit gets downgraded. Pretty easy message for the Tea Party to sell, love 'em or hate 'em.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Funny thing is I've generally liked just about everything Obama has done so far in his first term. He's recognized the need to move toward the center - because liberal politics don't work in economically tough times. He has shown himself to be flexible and reasonable.

But our country will not see it that way. Our populace is not bright enough to see beyond the fact that he is the man presiding over our first downgrade.

I'd wait to see who the GOP nominates to run against him before I placed any bets. But this definitely hits Obama and boosts the Tea Party's appeal. What happens when you don't control spending? Your credit gets downgraded. Pretty easy message for the Tea Party to sell, love 'em or hate 'em.

Agreed. But I'm fine with that in this president's case.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Funny thing is I've generally liked just about everything Obama has done so far in his first term. He's recognized the need to move toward the center - because liberal politics don't work in economically tough times. He has shown himself to be flexible and reasonable.

But our country will not see it that way. Our populace is not bright enough to see beyond the fact that he is the man presiding over our first downgrade.

I'd wait to see who the GOP nominates to run against him before I placed any bets. But this definitely hits Obama and boosts the Tea Party's appeal. What happens when you don't control spending? Your credit gets downgraded. Pretty easy message for the Tea Party to sell, love 'em or hate 'em.

We went from he's definitely a gonner to maybe a gonner depending who?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by saden1

We went from he's definitely a gonner to maybe a gonner depending who?

Yes. In my first post I failed to consider how dumb the GOP can be at times.

If it's Romney, he rolls over Obama easily. If it's Bachmann or Palin, all bets are off.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yes. In my first post I failed to consider how dumb the GOP can be at times.

If it's Romney, he rolls over Obama easily. If it's Bachmann or Palin, all bets are off.

I'll take $100 on Obama vs Romney. You down? If Romney isn't nominated no bet.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

I'll take $100 on Obama vs Romney. You down? If Romney isn't nominated no bet.

I'm down.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I'm down.

Done! I take paypal.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Funny thing is I've generally liked just about everything Obama has done so far in his first term.

When he's President, the same old same old will continue.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

When he's President, the same old same old will continue.

Do you really think things will get better under Romney?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Do you really think things will get better under Romney?

Apparently you haven't seen my thoughts on politicians. I don't think it's going to get better with any party. Injected a X or Y person into a corrupt system is still going to yield corrupt results.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

When he's President, the same old same old will continue.

Yeah I mean he's completely full of ish. It's no secret at this point. He's damn near pathological. But so are all of them, on both sides of the aisle. Picking on any one candidate or any one party is silly. They're all broken.

CURL: Is Obama a pathological liar? - Washington Times

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah I mean he's completely full of ish. It's no secret at this point. He's damn near pathological. But so are all of them, on both sides of the aisle. Picking on any one candidate or any one party is silly. They're all broken.

CURL: Is Obama a pathological liar? - Washington Times

This is what qualifies one for a psychological liar these days? Our insider contradicts Obama and he changed the terms after pressure? Do you people not understand how dynamic negotiating is?

I guess Boner et al didn't have all the cards after afterall.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by saden1

This is what qualifies one for a psychological liar these days? Our insider contradicts Obama and he changed the terms after pressure? Do you people not understand how dynamic negotiating is?

I guess Boner et al didn't have all the cards after afterall.

Seriously.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by saden1

This is what qualifies one for a psychological liar these days? Our insider contradicts Obama and he changed the terms after pressure? Do you people not understand how dynamic negotiating is?

I guess Boner et al didn't have all the cards after afterall.

I don't know what a psychological liar is.

Funny you mention that about negotiating... I recently finished reading Negotiating Rationally by Max Bazerman and Margaret Neale. Good read.

Mine was a statement that the Obama thing is just an example of... I was speaking in general about politics in this country. Obama is full of ish up to his ears, but he's certainly not the only one.