Bye Bye Barrow?

Schneed10 · 05-03-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I would rather cut Barrow now and take the cap hit this year as opposed to next year when we will have bigger cap bills coming due.

As for MLB in a perfect world, I would like to see Marshall start the year and McCunes groomed to eventually take over. That's assuming McCunes is as good as we all hope he is.

We can't afford to take the cap hit this year. We only have about $2 million in cap room, and cutting Barrow now would eat up another $0.3 million in room this year. Given that we still need to sign our rookies, and Rod Gardner seems to be staying, cutting him now is not an option. We would have done it already if it were an option. They're forced to wait until June 1.

Grayacre · 05-03-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by uhohjimoh

But is Mcune or Barnes going to be mentally ready to play the position. Part of what made our D so good last year was pierce's mental game..getting people into position, relaying the plays, etc etc. middle linebacker is a really hard position to play.

You hit the nail right on the head, uhohjimoh. I have no doubt that the new guys will be good players. Still, I'm concerned that the team's decision to suddenly cry "fiscal responsibility" and let Pierce go will prove to be perhaps the most imprudent move of this off-season. No matter what type of players the new guys become, it seems unrealistic to expect them to fill Pierce's shoes in the mental aspects that uhohjimoh identified.

skinfan · 05-03-2005, 10:55 AM

I like the Skins are stocking up all these candidates at middle linebacker. I wanted Pierce to stay like most but why pay him the money after one year? Maybe Lemar is the next Pierce. Even if there is a rotation in the middle, we've been down the road all having 3 high priced LB's....

Balmerskinsfan · 05-03-2005, 12:43 PM

I wouldn't be upset if Barrow was cut. Williams could turn a stadium hot dog vendor into a stud LB.

skinsguy · 05-03-2005, 12:48 PM

I can't be upset over a player I haven't seen play for us yet...I agree with Daseal...might as well throw in the new guys and build our future at LB.

mooby · 05-03-2005, 03:19 PM

lemar deserves to start the season at middle linebacker. especially after the way he stepped up when lavar went down. i think lemar will do a fine job, and he could be a starter for us for years to come. i don't get why we can't release all these players before june 1st, though. what is so important about that day.

Schneed10 · 05-03-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

lemar deserves to start the season at middle linebacker. especially after the way he stepped up when lavar went down. i think lemar will do a fine job, and he could be a starter for us for years to come. i don't get why we can't release all these players before june 1st, though. what is so important about that day.

That's the cutoff date for signing-bonus allocations. It's complicated, but basically if you cut them before June 1, the unallocated portion of the signing bonus hits the cap that year. If you cut them after June 1, the unallocated portion of the signing bonus hits the following year, thereby delaying the cap hit.

offiss · 05-03-2005, 05:10 PM

I don't know, this kid Newberry doesn't look to promising, Williams likes speed at LB, and this kid runs a 4.72 not that fast, especially when we keep hearing that he is fast, he look's a little awkward as well.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...01&videoID=652

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-03-2005, 05:18 PM

I too, would like to see Lemar starting this year. Again, we were ranked in the top three minus Arrington, Daniels, Bowen AND we have a great CB coming in. I'd love to see someone like McCune become even better than Marshall, but right now Marshall has earned the job.

SKINSnCANES · 05-03-2005, 06:52 PM

I think Barrow should just retire. If he played this year, and got shots all the time, hes risking the rest of his life. He had a great carrer. No sense trying to prove somethign to skins fans and come out for one year, prevent us from giving our new guys a shot, and then have a worse limp for the rest of your life

mooby · 05-03-2005, 08:17 PM

yeah. that is true. barrow has had a great career, so why not retire now? we respect him and all he's done for the nfl, but he has to move on.

BigSKINBauer · 05-03-2005, 08:19 PM

M C C U N E

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-03-2005, 10:26 PM

the one knock against Lemar filling in at MLB is that there's questions about whether he's got enough bulk. I don't know if he's bulked up any since last year but I wouldn't be suprised to see a big mix of Marshall and Mccune if Barrow isn't able to go until either one stands out from the other or an injury occurs.

05-03-2005, 10:55 AM	#18
skinfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 1	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I like the Skins are stocking up all these candidates at middle linebacker. I wanted Pierce to stay like most but why pay him the money after one year? Maybe Lemar is the next Pierce. Even if there is a rotation in the middle, we've been down the road all having 3 high priced LB's....

05-03-2005, 12:43 PM	#19
Balmerskinsfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 66	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I wouldn't be upset if Barrow was cut. Williams could turn a stadium hot dog vendor into a stud LB.

05-03-2005, 12:48 PM	#20
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I can't be upset over a player I haven't seen play for us yet...I agree with Daseal...might as well throw in the new guys and build our future at LB. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

05-03-2005, 03:19 PM	#21
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? lemar deserves to start the season at middle linebacker. especially after the way he stepped up when lavar went down. i think lemar will do a fine job, and he could be a starter for us for years to come. i don't get why we can't release all these players before june 1st, though. what is so important about that day. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

05-03-2005, 05:10 PM	#23
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I don't know, this kid Newberry doesn't look to promising, Williams likes speed at LB, and this kid runs a 4.72 not that fast, especially when we keep hearing that he is fast, he look's a little awkward as well. http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...01&videoID=652

05-03-2005, 05:18 PM	#24
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I too, would like to see Lemar starting this year. Again, we were ranked in the top three minus Arrington, Daniels, Bowen AND we have a great CB coming in. I'd love to see someone like McCune become even better than Marshall, but right now Marshall has earned the job. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-03-2005, 06:52 PM	#25
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? I think Barrow should just retire. If he played this year, and got shots all the time, hes risking the rest of his life. He had a great carrer. No sense trying to prove somethign to skins fans and come out for one year, prevent us from giving our new guys a shot, and then have a worse limp for the rest of your life __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-03-2005, 08:17 PM	#26
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? yeah. that is true. barrow has had a great career, so why not retire now? we respect him and all he's done for the nfl, but he has to move on. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

05-03-2005, 08:19 PM	#27
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? M C C U N E

05-03-2005, 10:26 PM	#28
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	Re: Bye Bye Barrow? the one knock against Lemar filling in at MLB is that there's questions about whether he's got enough bulk. I don't know if he's bulked up any since last year but I wouldn't be suprised to see a big mix of Marshall and Mccune if Barrow isn't able to go until either one stands out from the other or an injury occurs.

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