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[jonny5dicky]

Eli Manning and Matt Schaub are both franchise quarterbacks, and both surely better than Joe Flacco.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by jonny5dicky

Eli Manning and Matt Schaub are both franchise quarterbacks, and both surely better than Joe Flacco.

I wouldn't say Franchise QB's for Schaub he hasn't even made a Playoff appearance yet.. Flacco is JC imo

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I wouldn't say Franchise QB's for Schaub he hasn't even made a Playoff appearance yet.. Flacco is JC imo

If Flacco is JC, then you have just thrown the rest of the Redskins' roster under the bus.

Flacco's team has made the playoffs more than once; JC and the Redskins were also-rans. If Flacco = JC, that can only mean that the rest of the Skins team stunk it up and cost a playoff berth.

Is that your message?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

If Flacco is JC, then you have just thrown the rest of the Redskins' roster under the bus.

Flacco's team has made the playoffs more than once; JC and the Redskins were also-rans. If Flacco = JC, that can only mean that the rest of the Skins team stunk it up and cost a playoff berth.

Is that your message?

This is basically exactly correct on the dot.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I wouldn't say Franchise QB's for Schaub he hasn't even made a Playoff appearance yet.. Flacco is JC imo

Don't blame Houston's awful D on Schaub. Flacco actually has accuracy as well, something JC will never consistently have.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Don't blame Houston's awful D on Schaub. Flacco actually has accuracy as well, something JC will never consistently have.

There is no meaningful difference between Flacco's accuracy numbers (from completion percentage right down the line), and Campbells accuracy numbers. They're basically the same player at this point in their careers.

I like Campbell more this year from a fantasy perspective because I like Oakland's proven ability to get vertical over Baltimore's stated attempt to get faster on the outsides. And as a check down receiver, Darren McFadden is the best in the business (not that Ray Rice is a slouch). Flacco is playing a ton of bad pass defenses though, so he has that going for him.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by jonny5dicky

Eli Manning and Matt Schaub are both franchise quarterbacks, and both surely better than Joe Flacco.

What are you talking about? Flacco matched Eli's career year numbers in literally half the time (3 years to 6).

Schuab fine but Eli? Thats just good old fashion hatting.

[jonny5dicky]

I would take Eli Manning over Flacco any day....look at Flacco's playoff figures, I don't think they're good. But then again, I'd take Rex Grossman over Flacco also. Rex is the man, the savior of D.C. He's going to surpass Brad Johnson's numbers of the '99 season when the Redskins had the 2nd best offense in the NFL.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by jonny5dicky

I would take Eli Manning over Flacco any day....look at Flacco's playoff figures, I don't think they're good. But then again, I'd take Rex Grossman over Flacco also. Rex is the man, the savior of D.C. He's going to surpass Brad Johnson's numbers of the '99 season when the Redskins had the 2nd best offense in the NFL.

Do you mean that the Skins will post better offensive numbers than they did in 1999 or that they will be better in the NFL rankings on offense than they were in 1999?

If you mean the latter, there is ONLY ONE possible outcome:

The Skins will have THE BEST offense in the NFL in 2011.

I would be willing to take that wager...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

What are you talking about? Flacco matched Eli's career year numbers in literally half the time (3 years to 6).

Schuab fine but Eli? Thats just good old fashion hatting.

If you cut Eli's career off just three years into it, where Flacco is now in his career, you could certainly argue for Flacco. Eli wasn't all that good before the run leading up SB42. Was a huge projection on the $100 million extension that the Giants gave him, hoping he could sustain performance.

But understand that the passing environment has changed considerably over that timeframe, and Flacco didn't develop in an era where the standard passing statistics were 6.7 YPA and less than 60% completion. Passing is up since the middle of the decade, and so is scoring.

I am a fan of Joe Flacco the person (much as I am a fan of Rex Grossman, the person), and would greatly enjoy his success. But if he ever gets to the level that Eli is currently at, I would be stunned.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by jonny5dicky

Eli Manning and Matt Schaub are both franchise quarterbacks, and both surely better than Joe Flacco.

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