Where does D. Hall rate as a CB for the Redskins all time?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

I like D Hall, very good player, I except that every once and awhile you will be beaten. Please don't ask GTripp0012 how he feels D Hall must of bullied him in School or something. LOL

I guess I don't understand the strong emotional connection between Joe Fan and DeAngelo Hall. If Kedric Golston, a Redskin of five years and his entire football career gets cut, no one cries a single tear for him. If hooskins, 53 fan, or SlinginSammy33 expresses displeasure with a play Hall made, it's because he took their lunch money.

There is a deep emotional connection between many people who root for the Redskins and Hall. I don't have an emotional tie to Hall, or really any other current player beyond what they do for us on Sundays. And that makes this vocal minority very, very different.

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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I guess I don't understand the strong emotional connection between Joe Fan and DeAngelo Hall. If Kedric Golston, a Redskin of five years and his entire football career gets cut, no one cries a single tear for him. If hooskins, 53 fan, or SlinginSammy33 expresses displeasure with a play Hall made, it's because he took their lunch money.

There is a deep emotional connection between many people who root for the Redskins and Hall. I don't have an emotional tie to Hall, or really any other current player beyond what they do for us on Sundays. And that makes this vocal minority very, very different.

The funny thing is Hall is more beloved than Riggins and Theismann on this board, guys that won SB's.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The funny thing is Hall is more beloved than Riggins and Theismann on this board, guys that won SB's.

Well, I get that one, it's because Hall is a current player in the internet age, and Riggins and Theismann haven't played for the Redskins in 25 years.

I don't get why Hall is more beloved than London Fletcher though. That one confuses me. I'd guess the local connection, but still, it boggles the mind beyond that.

Is there a Fletcher detractor section of fan base? Like, guys who just wish the team would move on from aging no. 59? Fletcher and Moss are universally beloved players. I think the general consensus is that DHall belongs amongst this category. And that the natural reaction to someone saying "wait a second, Fletcher and Moss have had way better Redskins careers than Hall," is to simply pout and cry foul.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, I get that one, it's because Hall is a current player in the internet age, and Riggins and Theismann haven't played for the Redskins in 25 years.

I don't get why Hall is more beloved than London Fletcher though. That one confuses me. I'd guess the local connection, but still, it boggles the mind beyond that.

Is there a Fletcher detractor section of fan base? Like, guys who just wish the team would move on from aging no. 59? Fletcher and Moss are universally beloved players. I think the general consensus is that DHall belongs amongst this category. And that the natural reaction to someone saying "wait a second, Fletcher and Moss have had way better Redskins careers than Hall," is to simply pout and cry foul.

Because I would put D. Halls career with the Redskins right up there with Moss, and Fletcher.

You really cant compare the 3 though since it's all different positions though

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Because would put D. Halls career with the Redskins right up there with Moss, and Fletcher.

You really cant compare the 3 though since it's all different positions though

But Fletcher and Moss have been much more successful Redskins. And they've been here longer.

I realize your thread is not asking to compare Hall to players of other positions. To answer your question, Hall is very much the most accomplished Redskins CB who is still on the roster. Is he more accomplished than Carlos Rogers who started for most 5 seasons or Shawn Springs who also started for most of 5 seasons? Not for at least two more seasons he's not.

Is he more accomplished as a Redskin than Justin Tryon, Kevin Barnes, Leigh Torrence, or Byron Westbrook. Well, yeah. Hall is more of a Redskin (in the historical sense) than those players will ever be. But who was asking?

Would you take Hall over Fred Smoot? I'm really not a big Fred Smoot guy, at all. But how many seasons did Smoot start for us as our leading interceptor? It was more than Hall. So at what point do we say even Fred Smoot has had a more accomplished Redskins career than Hall, even though Hall has had a better career to date than Smoot.

All of this is why I feel this thread is a bit silly. Comparing Hall to historical Redskins greats completely bypasses the fact that he wouldn't start on the All-Snyder Redskins team because of the time logged at starting corner by Bailey, Smoot, Rogers, and Springs over the last 12 years. Each one of those players were 5 season starters for us. Hall's fifth season here is 2012, assuming he's even on the roster then. Asking me to grade Hall on seasons that haven't happened yet is not something I'm comfortable doing.

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I am not sure if all time Redskin great is an appropriate word RIGHT NOW. This is his 2nd, 3rd season with us. He is a good corner, but I am not sure he stands out as one of the greats. His completion % against is pretty high, Carlos had better cover numbers. What he does do is bring the ability to gamble and make plays. He doesn't have the ability like a Dieon Sanders to make up for the mistakes. If dieon gambled, he got back into the play with just his pure speed. WHen Hall makes a mistake, it leads to big plays. I think I go
Green, Bailey, Springs. Not sure where Hall would fall in Redskins greats though. I am sure there were probably some guys from earlier years that may have made a bigger contribution to the team, I just can't remember them.