Who do you want to start at QB?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lol No I see the point I mean it happens to all the QBs but Rex has done this his whole career.

and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.

Here is the real stat to look at. TD to INT comparison.

Brady- 151 games, 277 TD's to 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 248 TD's to 140 INT's

Grossman- 46 games, 46 TD's to 49 INT's.

Stafford - 19 games 34 TD's to 25 INT's
EMannig 11 games 167 TD's to 118 INT's

Grossman is not good. Period.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Here is the real stat to look at. TD to INT comparison.

Brady- 151 games, 277 TD's to 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 248 TD's to 140 INT's

Grossman- 46 games, 46 TD's to 49 INT's.

Stafford - 19 games 34 TD's to 25 INT's
EMannig 11 games 167 TD's to 118 INT's

Grossman is not good. Period.

One small correction, EManning had 111 games.

No I agree with you. My point is do you really think any of those QB's would do any better in this offense with the same WR's Rex has had? I'll be man enough to admit they might have a little better results, but look at their skills. Each one of them I'd say are accurate on the short routes no different then Grossman. Where the difference is, is that the other QB's can throw up the deep ball and they have WR's who will locate the ball in the air and run to where its going to be. For whatever reason if the ball is not right in the bread basket for our WR's they don't catch it. and.... even if it is in the bread basket they drop it half the time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

One small correction, EManning had 111 games.

No I agree with you. My point is do you really think any of those QB's would do any better in this offense with the same WR's Rex has had? I'll be man enough to admit they might have a little better results, but look at their skills. Each one of them I'd say are accurate on the short routes no different then Grossman. Where the difference is, is that the other QB's can throw up the deep ball and they have WR's who will locate the ball in the air and run to where its going to be. For whatever reason if the ball is not right in the bread basket for our WR's they don't catch it. and.... even if it is in the bread basket they drop it half the time.

Rex sucks, let's just call it what it is. Guys like Brady have worked with no-name WR corps in the past and had success. Our WRs aren't world beaters but the cupboard is far from bare too.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rex sucks, let's just call it what it is. Guys like Brady have worked with no-name WR corps in the past and had success. Our WRs aren't world beaters but the cupboard is far from bare too.

and I agree with that. My whole arguement is Beck will not be that much better. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I'm also starting to believe that the coaching staff has the receivers starting at point A and running their routes to point B and the ball "will" be at point B. If the WR gets bumped off his route we see missed catches, dropped balls, interceptions.

All those other QB's have systems to include PManning in which they throw the deep ball and the WR has to go after it, locate it, and catch it. Yeah we practiced the corner post and we see more of it now then last year but again we don't see the WR actually going after the ball unless it's right in their hands. Moss is a little better at this, but the others are not that good at doing it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and I agree with that. My whole arguement is Beck will not be that much better. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I'm also starting to believe that the coaching staff has the receivers starting at point A and running their routes to point B and the ball "will" be at point B. If the WR gets bumped off his route we see missed catches, dropped balls, interceptions.

All those other QB's have systems to include PManning in which they throw the deep ball and the WR has to go after it, locate it, and catch it. Yeah we practiced the corner post and we see more of it now then last year but again we don't see the WR actually going after the ball unless it's right in their hands. Moss is a little better at this, but the others are not that good at doing it.

All he has to do is not give the ball away a couple of times per game and he will be a big improvement over Rex.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

All he has to do is not give the ball away a couple of times per game and he will be a big improvement over Rex.

This

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.

I agree Eli is not Brady,Brees or even his brother but anyone that thinks he and Rex are equal....needs their head examine.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree Eli is not Brady,Brees or even his brother but anyone that thinks he and Rex are equal....needs their head examine.

Thank u