Carolina Panthers vs Washington Redskins Gameday Thread

[mooby]

That's why Hank wasn't getting pt. Not on the same page at all.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mooby

That's why Hank wasn't getting pt. Not on the same page at all.

Why in the heck did we draft him then? I swear it's like we have monkeys in the FO sometimes. And not the smart kind of monkeys that can speak with sign language. The dumb poop throwing monkeys.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Why in the heck did we draft him then? I swear it's like we have monkeys in the FO sometimes. And not the smart kind of monkeys that can speak with sign language. The dumb poop throwing monkeys.

Typical attitude. Immediate impact or he's a scrub. Tell that to Roddy White.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Typical attitude. Immediate impact or he's a scrub. Tell that to Roddy White.

Well if you wanna press your luck on a WR who had catching problems, even throughout college, be my guest. I prefer someone who's proven that they can at least show flashes of consistency.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Well if you wanna press your luck on a WR who had catching problems, even throughout college, be my guest. I prefer someone who's proven that they can at least show flashes of consistency.

I will say this..I feel like we should of grabbed Tyrod Taylor in that next to last round

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by pg86

I will say this..I feel like we should of grabbed Tyrod Taylor in that next to last round

Don't worry, Hankerson will just end up another Malcolm Kelly/Devin Thomas. Hopefully we'll make up for this in next year's draft.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Don't worry, Hankerson will just end up another Malcolm Kelly/Devin Thomas. Hopefully we'll make up for this in next year's draft.

Right, and TO is the equivalent of US T-Bills? Absolutely not. Let me drill this into your head. EVERY move in football carries a degree of risk. You cannot avoid it, but can sure as hell manage it and figure out how to maximize your returns. T.O will not help us in anything but the short-term, and even THAT might not work out, i.e Randy Moss in Tennessee. With Hankerson, he MIGHT fail or he might step it up and succeed. Right now, no one but the coaches really know. Next year though, his outlook will become more clear.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Don't worry, Hankerson will just end up another Malcolm Kelly/Devin Thomas. Hopefully we'll make up for this in next year's draft.

Ain't buying it yet.. then again I believed in DT till the very end

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Well if you wanna press your luck on a WR who had catching problems, even throughout college, be my guest. I prefer someone who's proven that they can at least show flashes of consistency.

I'd rather not have a player who will probably be retired by 2013 and contributing NOTHING for us then. You're wasting a roster spot for what? One extra win? The first-step of field a top tier team is finding a good deal of LONG-TERM assets with potential for LARGE returns, not constantly grabbing short-term players with lesser returns. T.O's close to done. Hankerson might not be a superstar or even very good right now, but he still has a CHANCE at this point in his career to become that elite WR we need.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I'd rather not have a player who will probably be retired by 2013 and contributing NOTHING for us then. You're wasting a roster spot for what? One extra win? The first-step of field a top tier team is finding a good deal of LONG-TERM assets with potential for LARGE returns, not constantly grabbing short-term players with lesser returns. T.O's close to done. Hankerson might not be a superstar or even very good right now, but he still has a CHANCE at this point in his career to become that elite WR we need.

Or he could just be Devin Thomas. You like playing that risk/reward chance card. Most people don't come out and end up being like Cam Newton or Darelle Revis and just naturally being a beast, but you can at least get a good feel for how they're going to be by watching them play. I don't get good feelings from Hankerson. I didn't in college. I didn't in pre-season. I don't now.

[Hail to the Redskins]

Not blaming him at all for the terrible defense...

But did Kerrigan even get one tackle today?? Did he play?? Don't even remember seeing him today. Was he there?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Or he could just be Devin Thomas. You like playing that risk/reward chance card. Most people don't come out and end up being like Cam Newton or Darelle Revis and just naturally being a beast, but you can at least get a good feel for how they're going to be by watching them play. I don't get good feelings from Hankerson. I didn't in college. I didn't in pre-season. I don't now.

Every move in football has risk, rewards and has a probability of success or failure. Folks then subjectively assign a probability to said players and then make their decisions based off that. Failures are UNAVOIDABLE in the NFL because the probability of players bombing is that high. But you can minimize that with scouting and the correct strategy to maximize returns on the players you acquire. And the best players are long-term players who provide returns for you.

You want T.O? You figure out what returns he'll give you and whether it's ****ing worth it over the other options you already. His short-term production is also going to be hindered because of his lack of practice in the offense. For the long-term here's T.O's ability to reach that "upper echelon" status and how many more years he's going to play. Well, he's never going to be what he was in his 20s anymore, so the chance of that is a big goose-egg. T.O is not likely to make it past 40; he might not even play this year.

Hankerson will probably provide less in the short-term, but at least he might become SOMETHING in the long-term. It's an absolute certainty that T.O will not be playing for long in the NFL and his injury. We're a rebuilding team and need all the LONG-TERM assets we can grab. That means we should look at as many guys as possible that might provide long-term value, Hankerson being one of them. This doesn't apply only to Hank, but every rookie we draft and pick up from UDFA. They ALL have a chance at providing more long-term upside than T.O.

Our strategy should about finding "franchise players", not quick fixes that don't stick for more than 3 years. If Hank bombs, fine, let's question the scouting. But I won't be scared of taking another potential WR in the 3rd round simply because Hank failed. It's a a strategy worth executing because "franchise" players are just that valuable.

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Why in the heck did we draft him then?

What I cant understand is how you can be a WR, but your main problem is catching the ball or running routes? And how do you get drafted in the 3rd round? Dude is a f---in BUM, and I say this taking in consideration that he's a rookie.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE

What I cant understand is how you can be a WR, but your main problem is catching the ball or running routes? And how do you get drafted in the 3rd round? Dude is a f---in BUM, and I say this taking in consideration that he's a rookie.

Oh but he's Roddy White in the making. Just give him a few years.