John Beck Era Begins

Hog1 · 10-23-2011, 03:04 PM

LOGAN!!!!........who?

Hog1 · 10-23-2011, 03:08 PM

Nice.....logan

Hog1 · 10-23-2011, 03:08 PM

good drive...FINISH!

Hog1 · 10-23-2011, 03:10 PM

....You'll....never see Rex do that....bless his heart.

irish · 10-23-2011, 06:39 PM

I thought Beck played ok but the INT near the end of the game was a killer. You just cant make that throw with a chance to still win the game. Beck played decent enough to win but as I expected it was similar to Rex. It was the D that killed this team today.

mooby · 10-23-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I thought Beck played ok but the INT near the end of the game was a killer. You just cant make that throw with a chance to still win the game. Beck played decent enough to win but as I expected it was similar to Rex. It was the D that killed this team today.

That int was on hankerson. He had no idea what route to run, so he ran a go route. Beck was clearly expecting him to turn around and come back towards the sideline. That's on Hank for not knowing the playbook.

12thMan · 10-23-2011, 07:15 PM

Hankerson's on Twitter bitching and moaning about the INT. Saying people should stop blaming him if they weren't in the huddle. I'm like, dude save it.

Anywho, after he settled down Beck had a solid game. Hopefully he get's more comfortable in the system and finds his grove.

But I counted at least three or four plays where Rex would have either taken a sack or thrown an int. The guy has some nice wheels.

Gtothearry · 10-23-2011, 07:28 PM

Beck played better then Rex no doubt. I'm satisfied with his performance but the D didn't do their job today.

mooby · 10-23-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hankerson's on Twitter bitching and moaning about the INT. Saying people should stop blaming him if they weren't in the huddle. I'm like, dude save it.

Anywho, after he settled down Beck had a solid game. Hopefully he get's more comfortable in the system and finds his grove.

But I counted at least three or four plays where Rex would have either taken a sack or thrown an int. The guy has some nice wheels.

Bullee DAT. Beck's mobility is way better than Grossman's. After the sack/strip, Beck really settled down and was able to sense the pressure better.

SirClintonPortis · 10-23-2011, 10:47 PM

Bad first half, but he showed a little mojo in him in the second half. We'll see if this is his best or if he can improve. As for Hank, he can ****ing die.

over the mountain · 10-23-2011, 11:10 PM

beck looked below average considering the caliber of D he was facing . . he was basically facing the john beck of defenses .. . . not that rex or any other qb on our roster would do better . . . what was carolina? 31st entering today?

Lotus · 10-23-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

beck looked below average considering the caliber of D he was facing . . he was basically facing the john beck of defenses .. . . not that rex or any other qb on our roster would do better . . . what was carolina? 31st entering today?

Yes. Beck was not bad but he was not great: he missed open receivers, threw into double coverage, and was lucky not to have some balls picked (the actual INT was not his fault).

We have low standards if we think that Beck was really good.

Stuck in TX · 10-23-2011, 11:38 PM

Right now we need a game manager. The way the rushing game started out, it looked promising. Beck just needed to hang in there and not make too many mistakes, give the ball to the running back, and not make stupid throws. Like it or not, our defense let us down today. How many drives of the Panthers started inside their own 10? Beck doesnt have the stature to win games for us, at least not yet. He does have what it takes to manage a steady game into victory. Recievers need to catch and our defensive backfield needs to wake the hell up.

SirClintonPortis · 10-23-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes. Beck was not bad but he was not great: he missed open receivers, threw into double coverage, and was lucky not to have some balls picked (the actual INT was not his fault).

We have low standards if we think that Beck was really good.

I'd give him the ambiguous grade of needs improvement. But, as I see it, there is room for some hope. If he fails as a starter, then he'd be a good backup for us at least.

The Goat · 10-24-2011, 01:41 AM

I think Beck did well considering circumstances...and by circumstances I mostly mean play-calling, dropped passes, some poor route running and a generally underwhelming WR corp. In the 1st half Kyle called a good deal of running plays, which was smart. It got the o-line rolling and Hightower was racking up the yards. The sporadic pass plays didn't give Beck an opportunity to get into rhythm, and since it was his first pro start since 2007 I'm sure he'll need to feel in a rhythm for awhile at least to be effective.

In the 2nd half Kyle went away from the run, which helped Beck out and showed everyone the guy is capable of managing the game and minimizing mistakes and turnovers (compared to Rex) but I think Kyle had the wrong strategy. We should have run the effing ball down their throat and controlled the clock i.e. slowed the game down. It's sort of gotten ridiculous how little opportunity Helu gets.

So yeah my impression is Beck will be good enough to win once he gets comfortable and if we start pounding the rock. I don't trust Kyle to do this. I'm wishing more than anything Mike would take over the offense at this point. It's stupid to say Kyle would have more success if we had the right personnel to fit his scheme, because we don't. We don't have a top tier WR and QB, let along one of either. Pound the rock and stop effing around.

And obviously the defense needs to show up for Beck's performance to matter at all.

10-23-2011, 03:04 PM	#226
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: John Beck Era Begins LOGAN!!!!........who? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-23-2011, 03:08 PM	#227
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: John Beck Era Begins Nice.....logan __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-23-2011, 03:08 PM	#228
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: John Beck Era Begins good drive...FINISH! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-23-2011, 03:10 PM	#229
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: John Beck Era Begins ....You'll....never see Rex do that....bless his heart. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-23-2011, 06:39 PM	#230
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: John Beck Era Begins I thought Beck played ok but the INT near the end of the game was a killer. You just cant make that throw with a chance to still win the game. Beck played decent enough to win but as I expected it was similar to Rex. It was the D that killed this team today.

10-23-2011, 07:15 PM	#232
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: John Beck Era Begins Hankerson's on Twitter bitching and moaning about the INT. Saying people should stop blaming him if they weren't in the huddle. I'm like, dude save it. Anywho, after he settled down Beck had a solid game. Hopefully he get's more comfortable in the system and finds his grove. But I counted at least three or four plays where Rex would have either taken a sack or thrown an int. The guy has some nice wheels.

10-23-2011, 07:28 PM	#233
Gtothearry The Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,525	Re: John Beck Era Begins Beck played better then Rex no doubt. I'm satisfied with his performance but the D didn't do their job today.

10-23-2011, 10:47 PM	#235
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: John Beck Era Begins Bad first half, but he showed a little mojo in him in the second half. We'll see if this is his best or if he can improve. As for Hank, he can ****ing die. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

10-23-2011, 11:10 PM	#236
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: John Beck Era Begins beck looked below average considering the caliber of D he was facing . . he was basically facing the john beck of defenses .. . . not that rex or any other qb on our roster would do better . . . what was carolina? 31st entering today? __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

10-23-2011, 11:38 PM	#238
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 39 Posts: 545	Re: John Beck Era Begins Right now we need a game manager. The way the rushing game started out, it looked promising. Beck just needed to hang in there and not make too many mistakes, give the ball to the running back, and not make stupid throws. Like it or not, our defense let us down today. How many drives of the Panthers started inside their own 10? Beck doesnt have the stature to win games for us, at least not yet. He does have what it takes to manage a steady game into victory. Recievers need to catch and our defensive backfield needs to wake the hell up. __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

10-24-2011, 01:41 AM	#240
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: John Beck Era Begins I think Beck did well considering circumstances...and by circumstances I mostly mean play-calling, dropped passes, some poor route running and a generally underwhelming WR corp. In the 1st half Kyle called a good deal of running plays, which was smart. It got the o-line rolling and Hightower was racking up the yards. The sporadic pass plays didn't give Beck an opportunity to get into rhythm, and since it was his first pro start since 2007 I'm sure he'll need to feel in a rhythm for awhile at least to be effective. In the 2nd half Kyle went away from the run, which helped Beck out and showed everyone the guy is capable of managing the game and minimizing mistakes and turnovers (compared to Rex) but I think Kyle had the wrong strategy. We should have run the effing ball down their throat and controlled the clock i.e. slowed the game down. It's sort of gotten ridiculous how little opportunity Helu gets. So yeah my impression is Beck will be good enough to win once he gets comfortable and if we start pounding the rock. I don't trust Kyle to do this. I'm wishing more than anything Mike would take over the offense at this point. It's stupid to say Kyle would have more success if we had the right personnel to fit his scheme, because we don't. We don't have a top tier WR and QB, let along one of either. Pound the rock and stop effing around. And obviously the defense needs to show up for Beck's performance to matter at all. __________________ 24-34

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